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acceptable way to "scam" character transfers ?

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La'Krul
HolyTrident
Tactical Narcotics Team
#41 - 2013-02-09 11:08:10 UTC
Caveat Emptor "buyer beware". It's the responsibility of the buyer to do his homework. A simple, "where are any jumpclones located and what implants do they hold" should suffice.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-02-09 13:32:44 UTC
La'Krul wrote:
Caveat Emptor "buyer beware". It's the responsibility of the buyer to do his homework. A simple, "where are any jumpclones located and what implants do they hold" should suffice.



Who's to blame? -the buyer respecting his part of the contract or the untruthful idiot thanks to who a new rule is added?

If that guy (seller) was looking for his 10min of glory I think he just got them, now should we "clap" or [:doublefacepalm:] ?

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Klyde
Lost Wacko's
#43 - 2013-02-09 14:12:38 UTC


What happens to the guy that buys a toon with a Carrier as part of the sale 9not unheard of), should they expect that to be in high sec as well since their new toon is? just saying....

so much hand holding going on in this game as is, lets not add more.
Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-02-09 14:13:01 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:
You realise that people have more than one set of implants, right?

Anyway, not really a scam. There's nothing to gain from doing it besides tears. So just ask where the clone is.

The point!
The clone with the implants is in a station in territory
which has a high chance of losing said clone as soon as he undocks!
Furthermore, the buyer didnt actually get what he paid for!
A clone with implants in highsec!

Saying "he didnt ask" is bullshit. The buyer was *mislead*!

The buyer now feels screwed and spreads the word!
Its bad for character trading business as a whole,
especially considering that CCP takes that part of their income pretty seriously...



This.

Don't.

Do it.

Period.

If you do, go die in a hole somewhere out in space.Twisted

_**Noob **_isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.

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philip the 4th
Local Spatial Phenomena
#45 - 2013-02-09 15:07:10 UTC
Klyde wrote:


What happens to the guy that buys a toon with a Carrier as part of the sale 9not unheard of), should they expect that to be in high sec as well since their new toon is? just saying....

so much hand holding going on in this game as is, lets not add more.



Rule 6. Items cannot be listed among the character's valuable assets, only skills, implants and reputation. You are buying/selling the character ONLY and nothing else. Ships and items can be readily bought on the market for ISK.

Just saying....
Klyde
Lost Wacko's
#46 - 2013-02-09 16:08:32 UTC
philip the 4th wrote:
Klyde wrote:


What happens to the guy that buys a toon with a Carrier as part of the sale 9not unheard of), should they expect that to be in high sec as well since their new toon is? just saying....

so much hand holding going on in this game as is, lets not add more.



Rule 6. Items cannot be listed among the character's valuable assets, only skills, implants and reputation. You are buying/selling the character ONLY and nothing else. Ships and items can be readily bought on the market for ISK.

Just saying....



This is my point, once apon a time you could add things like carriers into deal, now you can not...
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#47 - 2013-02-09 16:49:48 UTC
I fail to see how its a scam, as the inflated character price must be offset by the expensive implants, regardless of where they're located. It does, however, make you a **** to be so nasty for no actual reason.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Darth Khasei
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
#48 - 2013-02-09 18:36:21 UTC
GM Lelouch wrote:
Don't do this. Thanks in advance!



Respect. Cool

Not really sure why there are any posts past this one.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#49 - 2013-02-09 19:37:20 UTC
Darth Khasei wrote:
GM Lelouch wrote:
Don't do this. Thanks in advance!



Respect. Cool

Not really sure why there are any posts past this one.


So, you felt the need to post....?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
La'Krul
HolyTrident
Tactical Narcotics Team
#50 - 2013-02-10 04:01:56 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
La'Krul wrote:
Caveat Emptor "buyer beware". It's the responsibility of the buyer to do his homework. A simple, "where are any jumpclones located and what implants do they hold" should suffice.



Who's to blame? -the buyer respecting his part of the contract or the untruthful idiot thanks to who a new rule is added?

If that guy (seller) was looking for his 10min of glory I think he just got them, now should we "clap" or [:doublefacepalm:] ?



But you've missed the point. If the seller says "The character has a clone with such and such implants" then he has not been untruthful. If he lied then that would be a different matter. Any untruthful statement is a misrepresentation and renders a contract voidable.

It would be up to the buyer to ask "and where are these clones/implants?" Legally, you could make the argument that the seller has made a "half-truth" but either way, if you are buying something, do the due diligence and ask the right questions.
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#51 - 2013-02-10 04:14:08 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Darth Khasei wrote:
GM Lelouch wrote:
Don't do this. Thanks in advance!



Respect. Cool

Not really sure why there are any posts past this one.


So, you felt the need to post....?



And you felt the need to make a snide comment?


Scamming of any kind is completely wrong in character trading, AND real money is involved in the transfer fee. If you plex scammers can't figure that out, well just go back to Jita spamming. ANY type of misrepresentation in a character transfer and you will feel the wrath of GM's.

Bet on it.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#52 - 2013-02-10 04:21:32 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
And you felt the need to make a snide comment?


Scamming of any kind is completely wrong in character trading, AND real money is involved in the transfer fee. If you plex scammers can't figure that out, well just go back to Jita spamming. ANY type of misrepresentation in a character transfer and you will feel the wrath of GM's.

Bet on it.


GM Lelouch wrote:
Don't do this. Thanks in advance!



RubyPorto wrote:
Andski wrote:
Quote:
The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence. Similarly, a seller must disclose whether jump clones are located in 0.0, lowsec or highsec space.


Apparently not!


Edited today. Congrats, OP, you made a new rule.



Yeah, no bet. Seriously, it's only a 3 page thread, and most of the replies are short. Is it really that hard?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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