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Strictly speaking, and regardless of what the market window says, freighters, jump freighters, and Orcas are not capital ships. They don't require the capital ships skill.

It has been stated several times, that CCP will first balance ships, then change skills. Does it mean all mentioned ships (including Titans and Moms) would be rebalanced till summer? Hmm, Fozzie better get ready to live at his workplace.

Also, a battleship in two days? Hell yeah, noobs gonna suffer!

wowsa, very impressed with the thoroughness of the plan and the clarity of the presentation.

PLEX to win.

But the thought of receiving 7 million skill points extra is appealing.

You do not need the command links to V but the basic Warfare Skills to V.


The skills relevant to the command links are the specialist skills, not the basic ones.

For example,

you need Armored Wafare V, not Armored Wafare Specialist V.
you need Information Warfare V, not Information Warfare Specialist V.
you need Siege Warfare V, not Siege Warfare Specialist V.
you need Skirmish Warfare V, not Skirmish Warfare Specialist V.
you need Warfare Link Specilst IV.

thats what plex is for right?

For me it looks like the promise “if you could fly it before, you can fly it now” is broken here in big parts.

I´m totally unhappy with the approach of the changes in regard of older players. These changes might be an easier way for newer players to get into specific hulls, but the reimbursements and some of these changes hurt older players very hard. I know that usually there are always some victims within such deep changes, but parts are really p'$5145 me off (and I´m rather a calm person). On paper these changes might look good from a beginners point, but not if you are capable, trained and used to fly different ships already. These players will loose to much of their playstyles and flexibilitiy.


Destroyers and Battlecruisers:
Currently I have trained both of these skills to level 5 and all additional requirements meet to fly every Tier1 Destroyer/Battlecruiser of every faction with maximum bonuses.
So if I got this right, I will get a reimbursement and can reinvest in the approriate racial skill - BUT ONLY FOR ONE AT LEVEL 5 AGAIN. That means that I loose 3/4 of my bonuses of these ships, since I get only enough skill points to maximize one race to level 5. Apart that I will also have to buy the skillbooks, right?
I don´t care here, that I might be able to fly them with level 1, but the time it will take me to be at the same skill level again.


Cruisers/Battlecruisers/Battleships requirements:
Since Cruisers now require the respective racial Destroyer skill at level 3, what happens to these, if I only get enough skill points reimbursed to maximize racial Destroyer/Battlecruiser skill?
E.g. currently having Destroyers/Battlecruisers at 5; and I like to fly the Cormorant, Arbitrator, Hurricane and Dominix.
After the changes I cannot fly these, until I have the proper Racial prerequired skills trained, but I do not get enough reimbursement points to be at the same level and forced to decide which of these vessels I have to sacrifice for a while.


Impacts on fittings:
Well, since you will loose different ship bonuses, you won´t be able to use the current fittings or at least they will loose their power. Yay - NOT!


Industrials/Orca:
These changes are exaggerated! I mean Iteron V from 24d down to 33 minutes!?! WoOt, everyone will only use them instead of the other industrials, because of the cargo capacity/training time in comparison. I also feel betrayed here.


Swapping skills:
With these changes you also break promisses, since if the player doesn´t have the other skill trained to the required level, he won´t be able to fly this.
Especially Command Ships and Freighter changes are very rough! That´s over ~ one month of training!!!
Direkt impact on Electronic Attack Ships, Command Ships, as well as Interdictors, Heavy Assault Ships, Recon Ships, Heavy Interdictors as well - isn´t that too much at a time?!


Reimbursement statement:
This is just simply not enough. You should reimburse the players in a way, that they suffer as little as possible. I mean it´s not our mistake that you rebalance this, so why should we be the ones taking the hit?
We should be able to remain at our current achieved skill ranks and ships. If it would only mean to have to train up some skills in less than a week, that´s ok, but in many cases it will rather take several weeks.
There should be either given out additional free skill points, remaps or special one-time implants/boosters which speed up the training.
Also originally your quote "if you could fly it before, you can fly it now" should have been expanded with "at the same level".
I comes to my mind that you might not have taken into account, that players actually have training plans, which you are messing up in big parts.


There is simply not enough wine and cheese for these changes...

Once again, do it right, if all other t2 ships need training the correspondent requirement skill to V, why open an exception?

Just do it right and keep it consistent with your own revamp plan please. If that means you have to give 7M skill points, ups!

(Translation: Call an ambulance, I just had a blood vessel explode in my brain)