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Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#161 - 2013-02-06 22:30:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Weaselior wrote:
hmm i could run a mission runner bot

or i could collect a giant organization of people to take a tech moon away from another giant organization of people and fight off anyone else who tries to take it

and i am very lazy

how will i make my money

hmm second option seems like the one for me


I see you clearly thought about this and decided that ratting bots that chain in null clearly don't make as much ISK as mission running bots(which require higher SP while putting themselves to more risk due to higher % chance of being reported in high).
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#162 - 2013-02-06 22:32:35 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

I see you clearly thought about this and decided that ratting bots that chain in null clearly don't make as much ISK as mission running bots(which require higher SP while putting themselves to more risk due to higher % chance of being reported in high).

i addressed this in detail earlier (both parts actually)

if you didn't understand it the first time you won't now

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#163 - 2013-02-06 22:33:09 UTC
Anndy wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
Anndy wrote:
pretty dam good considering it requires almost zero effort to get that 5.76 bill every month


How come you don't have any tech moons then? I thought it was easy?


i have no interest in them but it is easy when you have a giant blue blob no 1 is willing to fight against


Asakai
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#164 - 2013-02-06 22:33:24 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I see you clearly thought about this and decided that ratting bots that chain in null clearly don't make as much ISK as mission running bots(which require higher SP while putting themselves to more risk due to higher % chance of being reported in high).


gee I wonder which kind of bot will be more likely to be reported

the one that's running missions and not competing with anyone else to actually run the missions, since missions spawn endlessly, or the one that's running anomalies 23/7 and preventing other people from running those anomalies, since anomalies are finite

this is a toughie

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Anndy
The Evocati
#165 - 2013-02-06 22:33:59 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
hmm i could run a mission runner bot

or i could collect a giant organization of people to take a tech moon away from another giant organization of people and fight off anyone else who tries to take it

and i am very lazy

how will i make my money

hmm second option seems like the one for me



who exactly is gonna try to take your tech moons? you ruined the game enough for all the other blue blobs to stop playing with you and now your mad they decided to play away from your crap where you cant hurt them so you try to get the game changed to ruin it for them all over again
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#166 - 2013-02-06 22:35:58 UTC
Xinivrae wrote:
Anndy wrote:
pretty dam good considering it requires almost zero effort to get that 5.76 bill every month oh and how many tech moons do goons have these days? how many do PL have? now add all the other moons that make a decent profit


Tell us more about the almost zero effort required in obtaining a tech moon.

Duh, all you have to do is put up a POS tower, obviously!

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#167 - 2013-02-06 22:37:07 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
hmm i could run a mission runner bot

or i could collect a giant organization of people to take a tech moon away from another giant organization of people and fight off anyone else who tries to take it

and i am very lazy

how will i make my money

hmm second option seems like the one for me


I see you clearly thought about this and decided that ratting bots that chain in null clearly don't make as much ISK as mission running bots(which require higher SP while putting themselves to more risk due to higher % chance of being reported in high).


Yet the area of space with the highest concentration of bots also contains two of the most popular mission systems
Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#168 - 2013-02-06 22:37:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalle Demos
Weaselior wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

I see you clearly thought about this and decided that ratting bots that chain in null clearly don't make as much ISK as mission running bots(which require higher SP while putting themselves to more risk due to higher % chance of being reported in high).

i addressed this in detail earlier (both parts actually)

if you didn't understand it the first time you won't now


So you are posting, to say you already made a post? are you seriously the best GSF could find to defend them?! ShockedShockedShockedShocked

If anything this is enough proof that GSF are cascading
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#169 - 2013-02-06 22:37:51 UTC
Anndy wrote:
who exactly is gonna try to take your tech moons? you ruined the game enough for all the other blue blobs to stop playing with you and now your mad they decided to play away from your crap where you cant hurt them so you try to get the game changed to ruin it for them all over again


gee maybe we are at this point because we've spent our massive tech income keeping our line members in ships and reimbursing every lossmail of even a vaguely strategic nature, for every ship up to and including titans

such massive expenses don't tend to be compatible with one guy trying to maximize profits for RMT, do they

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#170 - 2013-02-06 22:38:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Andski wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I see you clearly thought about this and decided that ratting bots that chain in null clearly don't make as much ISK as mission running bots(which require higher SP while putting themselves to more risk due to higher % chance of being reported in high).


gee I wonder which kind of bot will be more likely to be reported

the one that's running missions and not competing with anyone else to actually run the missions, since missions spawn endlessly, or the one that's running anomalies 23/7 and preventing other people from running those anomalies, since anomalies are finite

this is a toughie


Herp derp, planet Earth to Andski, come in, did i say anomalies.....?

Ratting as in belts, you know. Those belts that have NPC with higher bounties that the NPCs in missions. Those belts that have a chance to spawn some juicy things.

To the other goon above, I also explained my point of view but you clearly missed it, so I won't bother doing it again.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#171 - 2013-02-06 22:39:34 UTC
Anndy wrote:

who exactly is gonna try to take your tech moons? you ruined the game enough for all the other blue blobs to stop playing with you and now your mad they decided to play away from your crap where you cant hurt them so you try to get the game changed to ruin it for them all over again

you act like dickhammering everyone who might challenge us so effectively they stop trying was easy
we just make it look easy~~~

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#172 - 2013-02-06 22:40:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Ratting as in belts, you know. Those belts that have NPC with higher bounties that the NPCs in missions. Thos belts that have a chance to spawn some juicy things.


belt ratting is worthless and anyone with half a brain would run anomalies which also have a chance to spawn escalations, which drop juicy things

also the average solo ratting ship can't take on an officer spawn, so there you go

oh and did you know that systems also don't have unlimited numbers of belts, and belt ratting is just as competitive otherwise since, unlike anomalies, belt spawns don't respawn immediately?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#173 - 2013-02-06 22:40:41 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Herp derp, planet Earth to Andski, come in, did i say anomalies.....?

Ratting as in belts, you know. Those belts that have NPC with higher bounties that the NPCs in missions. Those belts that have a chance to spawn some juicy things.

To the other goon above, I also explained my point of view but you clearly missed it, so I won't bother doing it again.

belt ratting is inferior to anomaly ratting in 0.0 and is also competing for limited resources

don't you ever get tired of being wrong

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#174 - 2013-02-06 22:42:43 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Yet the area of space with the highest concentration of bots also contains two of the most popular mission systems

Have we got to the 'CCP are manipulating the figures and lying about the enthusiastic highsec missioners to cover up for the massive nullsec RMT botfarms' part of the delusion yet?

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#175 - 2013-02-06 22:45:20 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Yet the area of space with the highest concentration of bots also contains two of the most popular mission systems

Have we got to the 'CCP are manipulating the figures and lying about the enthusiastic highsec missioners to cover up for the massive nullsec RMT botfarms' part of the delusion yet?

we're at the ignore the pie chart and hope people stop mentioning it phase

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#176 - 2013-02-06 22:45:26 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Have we got to the 'CCP are manipulating the figures and lying about the enthusiastic highsec missioners to cover up for the massive nullsec RMT botfarms' part of the delusion yet?

What do you mean "yet?" I thought that was clearly implied.
Anndy
The Evocati
#177 - 2013-02-06 22:45:39 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Anndy wrote:

who exactly is gonna try to take your tech moons? you ruined the game enough for all the other blue blobs to stop playing with you and now your mad they decided to play away from your crap where you cant hurt them so you try to get the game changed to ruin it for them all over again

you act like dickhammering everyone who might challenge us so effectively they stop trying was easy
we just make it look easy~~~


yes because getting massive numbers and throwing them all into a single system to create lag is hard, and you wonder why no 1 will play with you
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#178 - 2013-02-06 22:46:14 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Yet the area of space with the highest concentration of bots also contains two of the most popular mission systems

Have we got to the 'CCP are manipulating the figures and lying about the enthusiastic highsec missioners to cover up for the massive nullsec RMT botfarms' part of the delusion yet?


Now now dont skip ahead.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#179 - 2013-02-06 22:47:23 UTC
Anndy wrote:
yes because getting massive numbers and throwing them all into a single system to create lag is hard


okay you go ahead and create a massive alliance that can field massive numbers with coverage across all timezones

it is easy after all

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#180 - 2013-02-06 22:47:24 UTC
Anndy wrote:


yes because getting massive numbers and throwing them all into a single system to create lag is hard, and you wonder why no 1 will play with you


TiDi stops that from happening and has done for a very long time.