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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#101 - 2013-02-06 21:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Andski wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Or do you think that only people who live in empire can bot in empire? These people botting are alts of older players, and they are characters made by people who have never played the game in a social way other then to make real life money.


let's see, people who have never played the game in a social way?

i wonder what kind of player fills that description better: the hiseccer in a personal tax-dodging corp or the nullseccer active in an alliance with hundreds of other real people

hmm, clearly the nullseccer



Fail attempt to turn the argument in on itself, in order to insult the way a large majority of the player-base chooses to play EVE Online. To chat in an NPC corp and run missions is not being anti-sociable. You fail.


If anything it is saying that people like you and your establishment... sucks in their eyes. They simply want no part of it.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#102 - 2013-02-06 21:40:33 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
The only "benefit" of botting in highsec is that you have lower chance to lose your ship(concord protection) but the trade off is that there are more people who are likely to report you(especially if bot mining).


sreegs' algorithms detect bots automatically, reports aren't needed - it's just there to cut down on petitions, really

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#103 - 2013-02-06 21:41:09 UTC
Andski wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
The only "benefit" of botting in highsec is that you have lower chance to lose your ship(concord protection) but the trade off is that there are more people who are likely to report you(especially if bot mining).


sreegs' algorithms detect bots automatically, reports aren't needed - it's just there to cut down on petitions, really




bullshit. They are much smarter now then they were only a few years ago. Fail again.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#104 - 2013-02-06 21:41:25 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Fail attempt to turn the argument in on itself, in order to insult the way a large majority of the player-base chooses to play EVE Online. To chat in an NPC corp and run missions is not being anti-sociable. You fail.


If anything it is saying that people like you and your establishment... sucks in their eyes. They simply want no part of it.


sorry, but the asocial part of the playerbase is in hisec, since hisec is largely geared towards a risk-averse, asocial playstyle

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#105 - 2013-02-06 21:42:27 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
bullshit. They are much smarter now then they were only a few years ago. Fail again.


lol you think CCP depends on bot reports

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#106 - 2013-02-06 21:43:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Andski wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
bullshit. They are much smarter now then they were only a few years ago. Fail again.


lol you think CCP depends on bot reports



No you can't read. Try again. As for anti-sociable... they are plenty sociable. NPC corp chat is booming everyday. They just don't like socializing with you, and that is not the same thing as being "anti-sociable". It just means that they don't like you and/or your establishment.



Hell, many of them would rather quit the game entirely then have to play with you.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#107 - 2013-02-06 21:45:58 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
No you can't read. Try again. As for anti-sociable... they are plenty sociable. NPC corp chat is booming everyday. They just don't like socializing with you, and that is not the same thing as being "anti-sociable". It just means that they don't like you and/or your establishment.


i've been in NPC corp chats on alts and you can go for hours before someone actually pipes up

and in the newbie corps, it's generally "how do I fit a drake for pve" - the epitome of socialization in eve online, clearly

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#108 - 2013-02-06 21:48:12 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
These are my thoughts, take them as you will.


Thanks, then I'll take them as the ridiculous and meandering load of uninformed conjecture and weaseling that they are.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#109 - 2013-02-06 21:48:53 UTC
Andski wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
No you can't read. Try again. As for anti-sociable... they are plenty sociable. NPC corp chat is booming everyday. They just don't like socializing with you, and that is not the same thing as being "anti-sociable". It just means that they don't like you and/or your establishment.


i've been in NPC corp chats on alts and you can go for hours before someone actually pipes up

and in the newbie corps, it's generally "how do I fit a drake for pve" - the epitome of socialization in eve online, clearly



Me too, and I have had a totally different experience. So you are either in some kind of weird super quiet npc chatroom or you are lying. Also, it is not like alliance channels are booming 23/7 either. It is the same 10-20 people doing most of the chitchat in even a large alliance.


So I guess you fail thrice.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#110 - 2013-02-06 21:49:51 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
These are my thoughts, take them as you will.


Thanks, then I'll keep spewing more of my ridiculous and meandering load of uninformed conjecture and weaseling that they are.



Fixed that for you.

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Anndy
The Evocati
#111 - 2013-02-06 21:49:57 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Andski wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
bullshit. They are much smarter now then they were only a few years ago. Fail again.


lol you think CCP depends on bot reports



No you can't read. Try again. As for anti-sociable... they are plenty sociable. NPC corp chat is booming everyday. They just don't like socializing with you, and that is not the same thing as being "anti-sociable". It just means that they don't like you and/or your establishment.



Hell, many of them would rather quit the game entirely then have to play with you.


honestly were just wasting time, they will do anything to defend their RMT empire, they have even turned the CSM into a joke and used it to ensure they always get their way
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#112 - 2013-02-06 21:51:02 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Me too, and I have had a totally different experience. So you are either in some kind of weird super quiet npc chatroom or you are lying. Also, it is not like alliance channels are booming 23/7 either. It is the same 10-20 people doing most of the chitchat in even a large alliance.


So I guess you fail thrice.


alliance chats are generally quiet since, well, people use this magical thing called "jabber"

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#113 - 2013-02-06 21:51:08 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:


Here let me help. How many region of null allow for safe and truly lucrative botting? If you happen to not have access to those kind of regions the safety of empire will take precedence.




Or do you think that only people who live in empire can bot in empire? These people botting are alts of older players, and they are characters made by people who have never played the game in a social way other then to make real life money. The average empire dweller has nothing to do with it.


If you run a high sec boting operation that pays for your RL living why would you need to be out in null sec and why would you want to become a name known to tens of thousands of people including the Dev team dedicated to hunting down botss and RMT operations?
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2013-02-06 21:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
And yes, im a risk-averse carebear scrub. Im in my own corp but i actually have the tax setup and treat is as my savings wallet :P. Im in my own corp because I play on and off and I can't fully commit to this game so me being considerate me regarding player corps I choose not to be "that guy that joins the corp but is inactive".

I would love to join CAS if i could, they are such a fun npc corp. I also join some chat channels.

There is a difference between anti-social and anti-sociable Blink

Hope i didn't derail this too much :P
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#115 - 2013-02-06 21:52:57 UTC
Andski wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Me too, and I have had a totally different experience. So you are either in some kind of weird super quiet npc chatroom or you are lying. Also, it is not like alliance channels are booming 23/7 either. It is the same 10-20 people doing most of the chitchat in even a large alliance.


So I guess you fail thrice.


alliance chats are generally quiet since, well, people use this magical thing called "jabber"



Brb AFK a few (Mutes and takes off headset)


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Malik Doom
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2013-02-06 21:53:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Malik Doom
Varius Xeral wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Also, yeah there are more people in high sec, so obviously the % is going to be bigger.
Also, confirming that null peeps don't have alts in high sec and there is absolutely, positively NO WAY they could RMT IF they wanted.


Try actually following the argument.

If the vast majority of botting is done in empire, how are the supposed "evil nullsec overlord cabal" "controlling RMT"?

What advantage does their suggested dominance of nullsec give them with respect to their RMT bot empires in hisec?

Take your time.



Null secers dont have alts in high sec. Okay.

Botting does not equal RMT. You don't have to bot to sell isk for cash. I will admit I don't have experience in null sec or sov. And I am basing my assumptions on posts, recruitment adds, and the talk about moon goo being so profitable. I was under the impression that sov was were the most isk could be made the fastest. If I am wrong please correct me.

And for the love of EVE why does it matter where the bots or those who RMT dwell?.

If its bad for EVE its bad.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#117 - 2013-02-06 21:55:22 UTC
Hey guys all of the gold farmers in wow are secretly controlled by the top tier raiding guilds because I'm an idiot

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#118 - 2013-02-06 21:55:42 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

bullshit. They are much smarter now then they were only a few years ago. Fail again.

man am i glad we got your badposting corp out of our alliance

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#119 - 2013-02-06 21:57:04 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:


Here let me help. How many region of null allow for safe and truly lucrative botting? If you happen to not have access to those kind of regions the safety of empire will take precedence.




Or do you think that only people who live in empire can bot in empire? These people botting are alts of older players, and they are characters made by people who have never played the game in a social way other then to make real life money. The average empire dweller has nothing to do with it.


If you run a high sec boting operation that pays for your RL living why would you need to be out in null sec and why would you want to become a name known to tens of thousands of people including the Dev team dedicated to hunting down botss and RMT operations?



I very complex question. Maybe you should ask the guy who closed the eve bank after a few years in order to pay for the down-payment on his house. The answer to your question is as diverse as the individual. Maybe they want to make rl money and at the same time try and become an internet spaceship's superpower?


Say you go onto an RMT site and you want to buy a nyx. Where did it come from? Empire? Well no sir, you can't make them in empire. It came from nullsec. I am looking at one that is priced at a whopping 1,200 bucks and all i did was run a quick google search.




Buy a nyx "fresh from empire" Roll

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Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#120 - 2013-02-06 21:57:13 UTC
This thread was interesting until GSF dedicated forum warriors decided to join for no reason, you would think having all that space they would have a lot of fun, cool things to do, yet here they are once again defending their alliance when the OP mentions ALL OF 0.0. Clearly GSF have something to hide if the second RMT is mentioned they have to get involved

Does CFC stand for Conceited Fat and Clueless by any chance?