EVE General Discussion

Please continue to tell us about all those Phoenix blap dreads people are not flying. That's why. Of course damage selection isn't really the issue, so I guess you're right.

With the recent comments in the Summer 2013 Dev Blog, it's moot anyway. Seems like cross-training really is CCP's way of fixing their horrible citadel mechanics.

There, I highlighted the important part for you.

So sad that they censor the name of such a great writer. Also torpedoes and split weapons systems slots are horrible.

Here's an idea for the Naglfar:
Remove the fifth high slot and give it one more of both turret and launcher hardpoints, and replace the projectile damage bonus with a launcher ROF bonus. Nag pilots will then have the option of going with either missiles or projectiles. Once capital missiles get rebalanced then it might be an interesting tradeoff depending on what they're doing.

Alternatively remove the fifth high slot, add a turret slot, and remove the launcher hardpoints entirely.

Projectiles are ridiculously unbalanced for a number of reasons.

I answered the second question in the post you quoted.

* No Slaves for shield.
* Shield tanks tend towards less buffer and active repping rather than just lots of buffer.
* Shield repping is faster, but less energy efficient than armor repping.
* Missiles in flight increase the server load.
* Missiles don't do instant damage.

Shield vs. armor otherwise doesn't matter for dreadnoughts.

Capacitor is a real issue for a Chimera. It really needs a buff in that department, and an extra low slot. It is the only carrier that needs to have faction modules. After jumping, it takes the longest to recover cap.

Other than the Archon, all the carriers could use a buff so they can perform similarly in triage.

Citadel missiles need an overhaul to make them useful. They have ridiculously low velocity too.

You'd also want a greatly reduced RR capability for the Covops Carrier off of a normal Carrier (Even with 5 sentries each, Slowcats able to skirt Cynojams might be a little extreme). I would think something more like a CovOps Rorq than a Carrier.

The tackle dread I'm not sure about. Unless they had a much longer infini-point cycle time, I doubt they'd be reasonably possible to burn down before they could cycle out and receive reps. So no more killing tackle to try to escape.

Hey, let's screw rebalancing. Instead completely change how capital fights work and make them happen between grids.

Capitals cannot hit any ship on the same grid but instead of 150km they get 150k km range. Other ships must go to the opposing capital fleet's grid and target the capitals for their fleet, one ship linked with a capital. The opposing capitals will notice the targeting ship and can try to have it destroyed by the defending sub-capital fleet before the shots are fired.

So you have a sub capital fights going on around two capital fleets in different grids while the capital ships dish it out on more stellar ranges. Fighter bombers and fighters need to be assigned to sub-capital pilots to coordinate the attacks on the enemy grid.

It is odd how the dreads have evolved.

I can take the Nag being 'crap', and the Rev being 'ok' - lack of reloads gives more real DPS and less real hassle. The Moros is maybe a bit too far off the end ... remember DPS is lowslot driven, and Dreads arent there to tank forever, so a Shield tanked dread is better - free lowslots, than an armour tanked one - if its in siege ... its tank is great.

And therein we have the problem. Shield tank a Moros and its DPS is stellar, tank is 'ok'.

A simple fix! Make each dread alter which modules Siege affects .. Moros and Rev get cap armour, Nag and Chim get cap shield. Thus on balance - perhaps increase the Citadel DPS (Chimera) to make it 'the' structure basher - lower the Moros a bit - not a lot .. it would make Moros and Rev good for anti cap and structure but leave the Nag a bit of a meh.

As for Carriers .. I Like Liangs locel rep bonus on the Nag (armour and shield). It negates the need to do much about its cap thereafter. Fitting on both Nag and Chimera might make them viable ... but its the dominance of Archon, and the Thanatos is merely a stepping stone to Nyx - noone will complain about either.

7-8 High slots on a Dread would likely cause problems.