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Goonswarm interdiction on Minmatar space ice mining
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Degren
Doomheim
#21 - 2011-10-11 13:53:33 UTC
Probably not the place to say it, and I know I'll catch heat for it...but god damn I love Goonfleet.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#22 - 2011-10-11 13:57:55 UTC
Degren wrote:
Probably not the place to say it, and I know I'll catch heat for it...but god damn I love Goonfleet.


You prefer tossing your salad, eh?

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#23 - 2011-10-11 16:08:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
I can supply a lot of ships/ guns/ ammo to abudban/emolgranlan if you want to be there this weekend :)

Whats your gank ship of choice and guns/ammo?
Bam Stroker
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#24 - 2011-10-13 06:32:05 UTC
Xearal wrote:
I would say this is some goon that is trying to scam people into paying him.


NO WAY.

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Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-10-13 06:36:57 UTC
For a modest fee I can grant you protection from the roving hordes of TEST ice miner gankersPirate
Vestor
Magma Planetary Investigation
#26 - 2011-10-13 09:32:05 UTC
Atrum Veneficus wrote:

...But keep on theorycrafting things ...

1) Send small speedtanked ship that cannot be hit by BS to Ice belt
2) Agress and enjoy the futile pew by BS
3) Warp in your Macronaw

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shashe sin
Doomheim
#27 - 2011-10-13 09:47:17 UTC
Vestor wrote:
Atrum Veneficus wrote:

...But keep on theorycrafting things ...

1) Send small speedtanked ship that cannot be hit by BS to Ice belt
2) Agress and enjoy the futile pew by BS
3) Warp in your Macronaw


lol anything manual they wont like, including the warp in for speedtank. Plus, once that ship bump into a ice and loses speed... pop!
Dynast
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#28 - 2011-10-14 01:06:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dynast
Atrum Veneficus wrote:
David Grogan wrote:
lol definitely the russian bots love goons right now.

now they will be on overdrive bot mining thick blue ice in drone regions and smooth glacial mass in insmother / scalding pass / curse / omist / fethabolys / great wildlands


The only flaw with your argument is you can't equip a mackinaw with enough of a tank to withstand drone battleship rats. Meaning you can't bot ice mining in the drone regions.

If prices rise enough to justify it, DRF will run macro fleets with a single drake that either holds aggro or clears spawn. Or a single hulk mining ice at 60% efficiency, these things are not difficult to work out.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-10-14 01:13:33 UTC
Don't worry about our DCF bros...we got them covered.
Epiphaniess
Verboten Technologies
#30 - 2011-10-14 01:13:55 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
lol definitely the russian bots love goons right now.

now they will be on overdrive bot mining thick blue ice in drone regions and smooth glacial mass in insmother / scalding pass / curse / omist / fethabolys / great wildlands


What makes you think the Russian bots/RMT's are not paying the Goons to mess up the Ice market. So they can make more prophet?

Let the conspiracy theories run wild...
The Apostle
Doomheim
#31 - 2011-10-14 01:14:05 UTC
Dynast wrote:
Atrum Veneficus wrote:
David Grogan wrote:
lol definitely the russian bots love goons right now.

now they will be on overdrive bot mining thick blue ice in drone regions and smooth glacial mass in insmother / scalding pass / curse / omist / fethabolys / great wildlands


The only flaw with your argument is you can't equip a mackinaw with enough of a tank to withstand drone battleship rats. Meaning you can't bot ice mining in the drone regions.

If prices rise enough to justify it, DRF will run macro fleets with a single drake that either holds aggro or clears spawn. Or a single hulk mining ice at 60% efficiency, these things are not difficult to work out.

Exactly.

And as I have stated elsewhere, shortening up supply simply makes botting more profitable, not less.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#32 - 2011-10-14 01:16:40 UTC
I would be careful goons. Your actions are generating alot of attention.

You know what happened the last time a bunch of pirates or goons or whatever started doing hisec ganks en masse? CONCORD got buffed. I would fully expect CCP to do it again.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#33 - 2011-10-14 01:19:13 UTC
Tian Garsk wrote:
Hmn interesting, i have a huge stockpile of all types of ice, my miner been stockpiling them day in day out for the last 6 years. I may just flood the market with cheap ice when the time comes, or maybe someone who doesn't want it to hit the market might make me an offer Twisted



an admission of botting for the last 6 years?
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#34 - 2011-10-14 01:20:24 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I would be careful goons. Your actions are generating alot of attention.

You know what happened the last time a bunch of pirates or goons or whatever started doing hisec ganks en masse? CONCORD got buffed. I would fully expect CCP to do it again.


thank you Brainy Smurf
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-10-14 02:03:50 UTC
Atrum Veneficus wrote:
David Grogan wrote:
lol definitely the russian bots love goons right now.

now they will be on overdrive bot mining thick blue ice in drone regions and smooth glacial mass in insmother / scalding pass / curse / omist / fethabolys / great wildlands


The only flaw with your argument is you can't equip a mackinaw with enough of a tank to withstand drone battleship rats. Meaning you can't bot ice mining in the drone regions.

This leaves you with a few options:

1) Manually mine the ice
2) Bot mine ice with hulks (which can tank)
3) Bot min with manual "guards" clearing the belt.

Either is a suboptimal solution. Ice would have to rise greater in value than the ABC asteroids to justify moving hulks to ice and that won't happen until oxygen isotopes gets in the 2500 range or so.

But keep on theorycrafting things which you have no idea how they work in practice, it's cute. I can't wait until you discover EFT and flood this forum with all the great fits you cooked up!


not every spawn has drone battleships

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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#36 - 2011-10-14 05:23:03 UTC
This should be interesting. A good portion of 0.0 pos towers are minmtar death stars and amarr beam towers. By nerfing this ice they could very well hamper a lot of pos activity that could in turn, drop a lot of cyno jammers or jump bridges.

This would make attacking very easy for people.

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Tian Garsk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2011-10-14 08:25:15 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Tian Garsk wrote:
Hmn interesting, i have a huge stockpile of all types of ice, my miner been stockpiling them day in day out for the last 6 years. I may just flood the market with cheap ice when the time comes, or maybe someone who doesn't want it to hit the market might make me an offer Twisted



an admission of botting for the last 6 years?


Lol, 2 and 2 really does make 5 doesn't it!?!?!

I have and will never used any form of bot i have no idea how to do such a thing and no intention of finding out i will also make life a living hell for anyone i find botting or infact simply breaking any rules or using any exploits so no there is no admission to botting for 6 years i have simply spent a lot of time staring at huge rocks chatting to freinds on skype-ts-Vent.
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2011-10-14 08:28:25 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I would be careful goons. Your actions are generating alot of attention.

You know what happened the last time a bunch of pirates or goons or whatever started doing hisec ganks en masse? CONCORD got buffed. I would fully expect CCP to do it again.


Hilmar already said on twitter they were going to.

But given CCP's current rate of change in EVE, I'm not holding my breath.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2011-10-14 08:54:18 UTC
Fix Lag wrote:
Hilmar already said on twitter they were going to.

haha no he didn't
Marz Ghola
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2011-10-14 09:12:36 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
I would be careful goons. Your actions are generating alot of attention.

You know what happened the last time a bunch of pirates or goons or whatever started doing hisec ganks en masse? CONCORD got buffed. I would fully expect CCP to do it again.


Oh please, what SHOULD happen is sec/ status to be done away with and have a real sand box with no popo at all. Just one big null space. At first it would be rough as it would be a massive orgy of space homos with ray guns doing nasty things to nasty bits. But after a while nobody will have any ships in eve. Then people will ease up and the situation will stabilize to about how it can be in plenty low sec areas now. Not hostile, shoot it type thing.

Now that would be a killer EVE