EVE General Discussion

Caldari isn't good at pvp? Thank God. I would still like the double nerf on the tengu it's currently OP in relation to other Caldari ships.

Power creep man

The tengu is pretty well in line with the other T3's now. Maybe you should be calling for buffs for the garbage ships.

Listen to the Goon he speaks what we are all thinking!
And seriously is that blonde hair or did you get an eggshell stuck on your head?
You never answered last time.

Oh yeah? I heard that nine elevenths weren't all those things.

Some things are buffed too, but people tend to care only about what is nerfed.

OP made a thread about a bunch of nerfs. Does this make him a nerf herder?

Looks kinda scruffy, too.

I don't hate nerfing. I hate when they nerf the wrong things.

The 2 most broken things in the game are 1) off-grid links and 2) movement options for the 'blob'

If CCP wants to nerf something, why haven't they nerfed either of those?

You nerfed my solo tengu, I can live with that if you also nerf the blue donut. Oh wait, half of CCP is ex-goon, I guess that won't happen anytime soon.

Nerfs are the "easy way" for a video game company to contentate some players or "correct" some broken gameplay rules.

Unfortunately we are speaking about CCP, and that is why nerfs are bad. Most of the time, they nerf too hard and the worst consequence of this is that they remove diversity from the game because they make their "victim" useless by doing it. Also, they are proud of their nerfs and refuse to correct when it is wrong, and even if they want to correct sometimes, their patching politic make it nearly impossible.

There was speed tanking in Eve. Pretty overpowered in his time yes, but they couldn't easily kill big ships and it required to be specialized. They nerfed it so much that it was removed from Eve until the boost of afterburners who permit to do some kind of speed tanking, but still now it is mostly buffer tanked blobs...

Today, when we speak about some modules like Remote Sensor Dampener or Nosferatus etc, most of the players don't know that this modules exist. They was nerfed too, and too much of course.

And one big exemple of broken gameplay nerfing was the so-called "amarr boost". To boost Amarr weapons, they removed some resistance points on the shield (explosive) and on armor (EM), this on mostly all ships of ALL races... but by doing that, they made a boost of Amarr AND Matar, and they nerfed more the shield than the armor giving so a kick to Caldari. Of course, players told them what was flawed in it, but CCP are/was too proud to make few correction to make it ok... Why just boost Amarr ammunitions when you can nerf everything ?

And last exemple, if I remember well, the Quantum expansion made some changes on missiles. Not really bad changes, but the rockets was hit too hard that they was nearly totaly broken. CCP corrected it... nearly FOUR YEARS after the release of the expansion, even if they knew it from the beginning... The trouble of the update politic of CCP is that there is a risk that they forget some needed balancing changes, or at best, don't permit them to make it fastly. If only there was frequent, small patchs dedicated to balancing, it wouldn't be a problem.

Now there are about to give ships a "role" and balancing the game this way, making a ship in a category pretty much the same than the ones of the others races. I can understand that, as they made too much bad nerfs before that they don't have a choice, it would require too much time to correct everything they broke.

The trouble is not about nerfing, as it is needed to permit some needed corrections with small time and effort. It is about nerfing BY CCP.