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First ever Lingerie line for transgender women!

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Xenuria
#1 - 2013-02-05 01:11:58 UTC
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First off this is freaking awesome and like the most exciting thing I have read all day today. This has to be one of the coolest things since the internet!


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Sturmwolke
#2 - 2013-02-05 09:38:41 UTC
I see ... you're very excited over this.
Xenuria
#3 - 2013-02-05 13:13:01 UTC
If you don't agree with the nature of the product you can at the very least appreciate the concept of a niche market being filled. There is a demand for this sort of thing and as far as I can tell this company is the only one aiming to provide to that demand.

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#4 - 2013-02-05 15:24:54 UTC
I have deleted some transphobic posts from this thread. Discrimination against anyone on account of their gender, sexuality, race, nationality, or the like is against the forum rules.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#5 - 2013-02-05 15:32:47 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have deleted some transphobic posts from this thread. Discrimination against anyone on account of their gender, sexuality, race, nationality, or the like is against the forum rules.



Thank You.

It was just another demonstration of just how far the Human Race has to go yet for full acceptance of everyone.

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Shalia Ripper
#6 - 2013-02-05 15:34:30 UTC
Even the ones that were not attacking anyone for being transgendered.


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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#7 - 2013-02-05 15:43:12 UTC
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Even the ones that were not attacking anyone for being transgendered.





Jeez, just drop it. Seriously, drop it.

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Xenuria
#8 - 2013-02-05 16:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
As I said before, if you feel like you are going to have a problem being appropriate or appreciative of this in the typical way you can always change your direction and look at it as a marketing niche.

The people behind this product line are obviously really intelligent when it comes to supply and demand. So far nobody else is trying to fill this niche market. Let me try and give an EVE example.


Lets say dodixie is full of buy orders for VOID medium but NOBODY is selling VOID medium. Then somebody has the idea and says "Hey I am going to sell VOIC medium and fill the gap".


Edit: you can even look at it from a design aspect. The website is very well designed.

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#9 - 2013-02-05 16:44:00 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
As I said before, if you feel like you are going to have a problem being appropriate or appreciative of this in the typical way you can always change your direction and look at it as a marketing niche.

The people behind this product line are obviously really intelligent when it comes to supply and demand. So far nobody else is trying to fill this niche market.


Guess it just comes to what we individually think is important. I don't care about specific clothes for transgender, as you can probably tell. I care more about countries where LGBT individuals are getting the same rights as "the norm" instead of being forced to flee for their very lives or forced to be silent and live a lie.

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new002
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-02-06 16:07:21 UTC
So is this for dudes who have turned into girls but don't have boobs big enough for female lingerie?
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#11 - 2013-02-06 17:01:38 UTC
What´s the problem with Transexuals?

Some of the SHARPEST and most awfully crude and sarcastic minds I have met in my line of work have been Transexuals.

Not only they have an acute humor and way of doing jokes, their very bodies can project certain interjections in speech with more tonality than usual.

Honestly, I´m more afraid of bigots than transexuals. Good friend of mine from Colombia, a transexual, had one of the most funny routines in joke telling I have ever heard, just hilarious, and in a sense, she was nice to look at, considering the extra package.

Meh, honestly, these days the only thing that shocks me is the Asexuals, they are beginning to trend and have known several already, mostly young adults.

I kinda understand them, but they baffle me, see THAT´s shocking to me Roll

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#12 - 2013-02-06 17:05:48 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:


Some of the SHARPEST and most awfully crude and sarcastic minds I have met in my line of work have been Transexuals.

Not only they have an acute humor and way of doing jokes, their very bodies can project certain interjections in speech with more tonality than usual.

Not surprising. When you're 'under the gun' like that all the time, humor becomes a crucial survival trait. And the abuse you fear and expect (and recieve) all the time means that sharp cynicism is almost manditory.

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#13 - 2013-02-06 20:10:29 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:


Some of the SHARPEST and most awfully crude and sarcastic minds I have met in my line of work have been Transexuals.

Not only they have an acute humor and way of doing jokes, their very bodies can project certain interjections in speech with more tonality than usual.

Not surprising. When you're 'under the gun' like that all the time, humor becomes a crucial survival trait. And the abuse you fear and expect (and recieve) all the time means that sharp cynicism is almost manditory.



I just imaged what would happen if you crossed a submariner with a transsexual....

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#14 - 2013-02-06 20:17:34 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:


Meh, honestly, these days the only thing that shocks me is the Asexuals, they are beginning to trend and have known several already, mostly young adults.



Their lack of sexuality (or claimed lack thereof) is kinda interesting at least. But I thought the 'trend' started back in the 80's with Morrissey. (?)

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#15 - 2013-02-06 22:05:27 UTC
Why would a transgender woman need special lingerie... what would need to be hidden? That makes it not a transgender, it's a man! Shocked

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Xenuria
#16 - 2013-02-06 22:29:14 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Why would a transgender woman need special lingerie... what would need to be hidden? That makes it not a transgender, it's a man! Shocked


I agree that it is partially conformist in its concept but it is ultimately more about empowerment than anything else. In a perfect would gender wouldn't really exist in a restrictive way and as a result people who are "trans" would just be indistinguishable from the rest of the population.

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#17 - 2013-02-07 02:08:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
Removed some trans-phobic, disrespectful, and off topic comments.

Please stay respectful, constructively on topic, and within forum rules. This thread has now had two cleanups and it may not hold out for more.

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Xenuria
#18 - 2013-02-07 02:22:45 UTC
I really like how the site specifically has a section where you can listen to the models that appear in the calming video that is the backdrop of the site itself. They each express slightly different reasons and motivations but it got me thinking.

Normally I am the first to make the argument that the reasons why you do something are just as important as the thing itself. I think in this case the Action being the creation of a product for a specific demographic carries more weight than the reason behind it. In truth there is no real way to tell what the personal motivations of the creator are. However I think an argument can be made that the action and outcome of those motivations whatever they may be are benevolent.


I feel like no matter what it is, A special hat or a favorite pair of socks; there are things that make us feel good and give us confidence. In the case of those that for whatever reason have a desire to present a specific way, providing them with the product (in this case Lingerie) is harmless.

I really can not find any negative consequence of this. I think this company is doing a good thing.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#19 - 2013-02-07 02:42:22 UTC
The hostility that comes from 'the other side', is most definitely hard to understand. What are they so afraid of ? Themselves ?

You come at the issue from a Trans perspective, and I come to it as a Gay Man. These things are not exactly related, but just being accepting of who we are as People has always come as a given to me even from an early age.

The human race is not finished growing up, that's for sure.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#20 - 2013-02-07 02:49:24 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

I really can not find any negative consequence of this. I think this company is doing a good thing.



Yes they are.

But my goodness, the first Trangender folks first appeared in the 1950's !!!!!! (Christine Jorgenson)

Just how much longer are we expected to wait for 'acceptance' ?

It's not like it's 'new' for sakes............

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