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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#21 - 2013-02-05 08:08:43 UTC
http://pastebin.com/dB5VbPf9

I was forced to get all serious for a while there. Some highlights:

"But you had to HOLD ME HOSTAGE."

"I fought back the only way I could."

"No man should have more power over me than I have over me."

"What is the difference between oppression on the internet and oppression in real life? Ask the Egyptians before you answer."

"I WOULD HAVE STOPPED IF YOU ASKED. It does not make it right, I know. But its important for me to know that you understand the simplest of manners: listen and attempt to accomodate someone when they ASK something of you. THAT is what being nice is. "

Translation: One example of being nice is harassing someone until politely asked to stop.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#22 - 2013-02-05 08:54:51 UTC
Dont get me wrong, nothing against griefing - used to do it myself (alt) but always makes me smile when a 'badass' griefer has to post 'just in case' hes getting stalked lol.

I mean dude you griefed him, now hes griefing you - and doing a pretty good job of it if you ask me.

Eve is a game of consequences, you got to understand that your 'trolling' after the fact has hurt his feelings - thats RL man, you r just getting RL trolled in return.

Now for all this crying 'waah waah, its just a game' - well when someone rages its RL - accept the consequences ...**** theres chinese WoW players getting beheaded for less.

There are lots of RL consequences to this game - dare I say tech moons, RMT, CCP, Plex manipulation.


.......Duuuuuude EVE IS REAL!!! lol

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-02-05 09:01:06 UTC
You sincerely think that things done inside this game are the same as things done outside this game?

Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-02-05 09:02:31 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Dont get me wrong, nothing against griefing - used to do it myself (alt) but always makes me smile when a 'badass' griefer has to post 'just in case' hes getting stalked lol.

I mean dude you griefed him, now hes griefing you - and doing a pretty good job of it if you ask me.

Eve is a game of consequences, you got to understand that your 'trolling' after the fact has hurt his feelings - thats RL man, you r just getting RL trolled in return.

Now for all this crying 'waah waah, its just a game' - well when someone rages its RL - accept the consequences ...**** theres chinese WoW players getting beheaded for less.

There are lots of RL consequences to this game - dare I say tech moons, RMT, CCP, Plex manipulation.


.......Duuuuuude EVE IS REAL!!! lol


Eve is a game, if your internet spaceship blows up it's real feelings don't confuse that with taking it outside the game.
Sorry to say broh but you're living too much in eve.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-02-05 09:09:44 UTC
I wish to be this bad someday where players ingame are so enraged by my behavior that they look me up IRL.

No really, it sounds like an awesome state of being. "Good luck coming after me IRL. I live on a Naval base. Those MA's may look armed and menacing but they really don't mind civilians attempting to sneak in. Honest."

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-02-05 09:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyla Skin
Yim Sei wrote:

I mean dude you griefed him, now hes griefing you - and doing a pretty good job of it if you ask me.


Dude, everything ingame is fair game. Outside of game is where it becomes serious.

I don't know about you, but I believe I would have grounds to call police in my country. (depending how bad this out of game 'harassment' is).

In after the lock :P   - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-02-05 10:24:12 UTC
Nyla Skin wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:

I mean dude you griefed him, now hes griefing you - and doing a pretty good job of it if you ask me.


Dude, everything ingame is fair game. Outside of game is where it becomes serious.

I don't know about you, but I believe I would have grounds to call police in my country. (depending how bad this out of game 'harassment' is).


Here have my like.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#28 - 2013-02-05 11:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Yim Sei
Nyla Skin wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:

I mean dude you griefed him, now hes griefing you - and doing a pretty good job of it if you ask me.


Dude, everything ingame is fair game. Outside of game is where it becomes serious.

I don't know about you, but I believe I would have grounds to call police in my country. (depending how bad this out of game 'harassment' is).


I agree.
and good idea of the OP to post this on a public forum should a crime actually be commited.

Except the police only actually do anything after a crime is committed. They are a bit like Concord in that respect ....WTF!!! Eve is Real!!

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#29 - 2013-02-05 11:01:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Yim Sei
Please delete - Fat fingers.

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#30 - 2013-02-05 11:03:28 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Eve is a game of consequences, you got to understand that your 'trolling' after the fact has hurt his feelings - thats RL man, you r just getting RL trolled in return.


Right up until he involved family members and ex-girlfriends, we were having a laugh about it. In fact, this thread was--and still is--about epic tears that flowed into real life. At the same time, it has become about a person so engrossed in a game that he believes in-game wrongdoings are license for real-life harassment not just of those doing it, but anyone he can find that might know them.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, justifies doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

We're pretty sure we know who this guy is now.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#31 - 2013-02-05 11:05:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Yim Sei
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
Eve is a game of consequences, you got to understand that your 'trolling' after the fact has hurt his feelings - thats RL man, you r just getting RL trolled in return.


Right up until he involved family members and ex-girlfriends, we were having a laugh about it. In fact, this thread was--and still is--about epic tears that flowed into real life. At the same time, it has become about a person so engrossed in a game that he believes in-game wrongdoings are license for real-life harassment not just of those doing it, but anyone he can find that might know them.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, justifies doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

We're pretty sure we know who this guy is now.



Nothing, and I mean NOTHING IN GAME, Should justify doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

Fixed that for you. (before it spills into RL issues)

so you know who he is - do you take retribution in game ..or out?

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#32 - 2013-02-05 11:06:28 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Except the police only actually do anything after a crime is committed. They are a bit like Concord in that respect ....WTF!!! Eve is Real!!

I've already talked to a local cop who is a friend of mine. I'm going to put something on the record tomorrow, but he told me tonight that we have...options.

I'm not actually worried about this guy. I don't think he's crazy enough or stupid enough to actually try to hurt me. TBH, this is someone who felt like things went out of control in a game he was far too emotionally invested in and was doing everything he could to get that control back. The lesson here, boys and girls, is that things can spiral dangerously further out of control for him if he takes this any further.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#33 - 2013-02-05 11:08:39 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING IN GAME, Should justify doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

Fixed that for you. (before it spills into RL issues)


Nope. I stand by my words exactly as I wrote them. I don't care if a nutjob kills your whole family...that does NOT entitle you to kill HIS family. If they weren't involved, they shouldn't pay the price.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#34 - 2013-02-05 11:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Yim Sei
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING IN GAME, Should justify doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

Fixed that for you. (before it spills into RL issues)


Nope. I stand by my words exactly as I wrote them. I don't care if a nutjob kills your whole family...that does NOT entitle you to kill HIS family. If they weren't involved, they shouldn't pay the price.


Understood - very honorable.


Would be interested to know what these options are - and I guess it would also be good info for the community in general should they ever find themselves in the same situation.

Would be awesome if you were to supply that information on the 'options' available.

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#35 - 2013-02-05 11:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Yim Sei wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
Eve is a game of consequences, you got to understand that your 'trolling' after the fact has hurt his feelings - thats RL man, you r just getting RL trolled in return.


Right up until he involved family members and ex-girlfriends, we were having a laugh about it. In fact, this thread was--and still is--about epic tears that flowed into real life. At the same time, it has become about a person so engrossed in a game that he believes in-game wrongdoings are license for real-life harassment not just of those doing it, but anyone he can find that might know them.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, justifies doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

We're pretty sure we know who this guy is now.



Nothing, and I mean NOTHING IN GAME, Should justify doing something that can make another person's loved ones feel threatened.

Fixed that for you. (before it spills into RL issues)

so you know who he is - do you take retribution in game ..or out?


*snipped personal attack* - CCP Eterne

"I wish these griefers would realize there are consequences to actions, in game or out of it."

Seriously? You kept discussing WoW players overreacting, so I'm assuming you're actually taking this context as people finding it absurd that things happen related to games. Absurdity isn't the issue, it's just recognizing that actually doing things outside of the game based on ingame actions is a sign of someone who has no grip on reality.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
culo duro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-02-05 11:43:58 UTC
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Yim Sei wrote:
-snip-

-snip-.

-snip-


You are dumb.

"I wish these griefers would realize there are consequences to actions, in game or out of it."

Seriously? You kept discussing WoW players overreacting, so I'm assuming you're actually taking this context as people finding it absurd that things happen related to games. Absurdity isn't the issue, it's just recognizing that actually doing things outside of the game based on ingame actions is a sign of someone who has no grip on reality.


I like the forum Tah'ris.

I've starting blogging http://www.epvpc.blogspot.com 
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#37 - 2013-02-05 12:48:43 UTC
While hilarious that someone would go to so much trouble to avenge the loss of some internet spaceship pixels and try to impress with some google-fu, this guy really needs to be brought to the attention of CCP.

No call for him to be going out of game, especially harassing members of players family.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Jay Joringer
13.
#38 - 2013-02-05 13:20:54 UTC
I lost interest somewhere on page 2. Anything good happened here yet?

http://smug-bastard.blogspot.co.uk

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Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#39 - 2013-02-05 13:31:05 UTC
Nope just the usual opinions for the sake of having an opinion.

Those 'options' you mentioned might be useful to the community tho.

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#40 - 2013-02-05 15:20:55 UTC
Yim Sei wrote:
Would be awesome if you were to supply that information on the 'options' available.


When it comes to real life ongoing serious legal matters, it's generally advised not to discuss such things on an internet forum.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.