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Belt Regen To Small Rocks?
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Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-02-08 23:30:03 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:

In high sec if a astreroid is not popped it will respawn the next day larger, if it is popped it will respawn at a random base size, usually very small. By mining a belt carefully, so you do not pop any rocks each down time the rocks will get bigger.

It has long been the practice of some miners to farm belts in this way. After several weeks they end up with these farmed belts having far larger rocks that an unfarmed belt. This is also the case in back water systems where there are no miners, the rocks are relatively untouched so are much bigger.


Have you checked this personally? I have. It is not true. Rocks only have 3 sizes: Small, Medium, and Large. That is why there is a 3 day cycle.

As to rocks getting bigger if untouched: Have you checked that personally? I have.

I have been observing 4 Plain Scordite rocks in a system named Seiradih, in Domain, for four days now. Seiradih is kind of out of the way, has no station, and the belt isn't one that I would willingly mine. Guess what? The rock scanner has given the exact same data all four days. I haven't mined them, and it appears to me that no one else has. If they are increasing in size, I would have to describe the rate as 'glacial'.

I do have to admit that I don't stay there 23.5/day to see what really happens.

Someone above said they think that anyone who doesn't already have this information, doesn't deserve it.

I disagree.
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-02-09 01:48:57 UTC
Yaboo Sux wrote:
Not Politically Correct wrote:
I mine a lot, and watch what I am doing.

It appears to me that, if I completely clear a belt, the next day it regens with all small rocks. 2 days later the rocks are back at full size.

Has anyone else seen this happen?



It`s a universal mechanic, you have started on the observation and data collection over time, you have noted it has a repeatable pattern so you continue to observe until the mechanic is revealed.

Most intelligent/educated miners knew it after 1 week of the new mechanic being introduced and have used it to their commercial advantage. It pays to have lots of uninformed miners out there (who are acting just like bots when all is said and done) as they waste cycles and self harm their potential returns which keeps prices for competent miners higher.

When you get an understanding, keep it to your self, it is so easy to work out that those who don´t, don´t really deserve to know.


I didn't intend to waste time on a reply to this. But I have no idea what you are trying to do, or why you posted it.

The idea is to keep mining types informed, so that they don't do things that hurt their own mining efforts.
Yaboo Sux
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-02-09 23:41:58 UTC
Not Politically Correct wrote:

Rocks only have 3 sizes: Small, Medium, and Large. That is why there is a 3 day cycle.


Basically correct but also fundamentally wrong.

Your data set is far too limited, it`s what you assume at present in a perfect world.

You need to include outside effects (others eating it at any and all of the said stages you reference).
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-02-09 23:57:36 UTC
In hi sec belts that are heavily mined, I've noticed ALOT of higher-grade ore, e.g. concentrated veldspar, dense veldspar.

Out in low sec, 90% of ore is plain vanilla ore. e.g. veldspar.

If asteroids respawn exactly the same, why is low sec ore so crap?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#45 - 2013-02-10 00:11:55 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
In hi sec belts that are heavily mined, I've noticed ALOT of higher-grade ore, e.g. concentrated veldspar, dense veldspar.

Out in low sec, 90% of ore is plain vanilla ore. e.g. veldspar.

If asteroids respawn exactly the same, why is low sec ore so crap?


Dense Veldspar etc. are often left to themselves as their size does not justify the waste on laser cycle.
The majority of miners won't scan roids and interrupt the laser mid cycle accordingly.
Others don't want to uselessy shorten the crystals lifecycle instead.

A low sec 190k roid is so much efficient.

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