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Amarr Level 4 Mission Ship...Any advice?
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SinTeryx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-02-03 22:34:21 UTC  |  Edited by: SinTeryx
Hey guys...ran a few level 4's last night in my Armageddon and struggled along. It was slow...my tank was pretty week. A corp mate gave me an Apocalypse and I started throwing together a fitting:

Apocalypse
High:
7x Mega Pulse Laser II

Medium:
3x Cap Recharger II
1x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)

Low:
1x Damage Control II
2x Armor Hardeners (Depending on the mission enemies)
3x Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1x Large Armor Repairer II

Rigs:
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones:
10x Hobgob II

I am cap stable at 52% with 28.4k EHP 600+ DPS based on charges.

Any input would be great! Thanks in advance!
-Sin

These may as well be farts in the wind but I have had a few beers since the start of this thread.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-02-03 23:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
there is no need to run cap stable for lvl4 missions. 10 minutes of cap is about as much as you'll ever need. i have never flown an apoc in missions myself but i would still advise you to add at least one more tracking comp for solid damage projection.
aside from that, the fit looks fine to me.

I should buy an Ishtar.
PMolkenthin
Regrediens
Death Legion of Capybaras
#3 - 2013-02-03 23:26:36 UTC
Try fitting a Micro Jump Drive. It's saved my Navy Apoc a few times when running plexes and sanctums. If you get neuted/webbed/scrammed, then hit the MJD, load scorch and move back in.
SinTeryx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-02-04 01:52:40 UTC
Apocalypse
High:
7x Mega Pulse Laser II
1x Tractor Beam II

Medium:
2x Cap Recharger II
2x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)

Low:
1x Damage Control II
2x Armor Hardeners (Depending on the mission enemies)
2x Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1x Large Armor Repairer II
1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Rigs:
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones:
10x Hobgob II

I am cap stable at 52% with 28.4k EHP 600+ DPS based on charges.

So I dropped some stuff and added a few others. What do ya think?

These may as well be farts in the wind but I have had a few beers since the start of this thread.
Kasutra
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#5 - 2013-02-04 02:10:36 UTC
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile
vyshnegradsky
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#6 - 2013-02-04 02:17:59 UTC
SinTeryx wrote:
Hey guys...ran a few level 4's last night in my Armageddon and struggled along. It was slow...my tank was pretty week. A corp mate gave me an Apocalypse and I started throwing together a fitting:

Apocalypse
High:
7x Mega Pulse Laser II

Medium:
3x Cap Recharger II
1x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)

Low:
1x Damage Control II
2x Armor Hardeners (Depending on the mission enemies)
3x Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1x Large Armor Repairer II

Rigs:
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones:
10x Hobgob II

I am cap stable at 52% with 28.4k EHP 600+ DPS based on charges.

Any input would be great! Thanks in advance!
-Sin


I'm sorry but have you not heard of the search function? There's even a thread about fitting the same damn ship right below this thread!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200825&find=unread

This one's a bit over the edge guys.

Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.

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SinTeryx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-02-04 02:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: SinTeryx
vyshnegradsky wrote:
SinTeryx wrote:
Hey guys...ran a few level 4's last night in my Armageddon and struggled along. It was slow...my tank was pretty week. A corp mate gave me an Apocalypse and I started throwing together a fitting:

Apocalypse
High:
7x Mega Pulse Laser II

Medium:
3x Cap Recharger II
1x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)

Low:
1x Damage Control II
2x Armor Hardeners (Depending on the mission enemies)
3x Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1x Large Armor Repairer II

Rigs:
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones:
10x Hobgob II

I am cap stable at 52% with 28.4k EHP 600+ DPS based on charges.

Any input would be great! Thanks in advance!
-Sin


I'm sorry but have you not heard of the search function? There's even a thread about fitting the same damn ship right below this thread!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200825&find=unread


So I am required to post in another persons post about a different fit? Sorry I don't have the ISK to spend on a full navy fitting, and no...no it isn't the same fit. Move along.

Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile


Magstab?

These may as well be farts in the wind but I have had a few beers since the start of this thread.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#8 - 2013-02-04 03:59:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
SinTeryx wrote:


Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile


Magstab?

They meant heat sink. An EANM isn't a very good idea on a PvE fit (unless its incursions) because you get better resists from specific hardeners. Instead of the damage control and EANM you could have a thermic and EM hardener (If you were fighting Sansha or Blood Raiders) and you'll get a better tank.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
SinTeryx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-02-04 04:17:37 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
SinTeryx wrote:


Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile


Magstab?

They meant heat sink. An EANM isn't a very good idea on a PvE fit (unless its incursions) because you get better resists from specific hardeners. Instead of the damage control and EANM you could have a thermic and EM hardener (If you were fighting Sansha or Blood Raiders) and you'll get a better tank.


Ahhh...yea I just tossed that on there because I wasn't sure if using 2x of a specific module like that would be worth the penalty...

These may as well be farts in the wind but I have had a few beers since the start of this thread.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-02-04 07:49:25 UTC
Basic Apocalypse:

Highs: Pulse Lasers

Mids: 2x Cap Recharger, 2x Tracking Computer

Lows: Large Repairer, 3x mission hardener, heat sinks

Rigs: CCC


Works like a charm. You won't be cap stable, but you don't need to be either. Once you've got the money, upgrade to navy version for even more oomph.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#11 - 2013-02-04 08:07:05 UTC
SinTeryx wrote:
ACE McFACE wrote:
SinTeryx wrote:


Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile


Magstab?

They meant heat sink. An EANM isn't a very good idea on a PvE fit (unless its incursions) because you get better resists from specific hardeners. Instead of the damage control and EANM you could have a thermic and EM hardener (If you were fighting Sansha or Blood Raiders) and you'll get a better tank.


Ahhh...yea I just tossed that on there because I wasn't sure if using 2x of a specific module like that would be worth the penalty...

EANM also gets a penalty, the higher the resist the less you get out of a module, even if you got the high resist from a different module (If that makes sense)

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#12 - 2013-02-04 08:08:33 UTC
[Apocalypse, Pulse apoc Pve]

Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Armor EM Hardener
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
Imperial Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

You don't need the faction stuff, but without it fitting everything is tricky, might need a CPU implant or consider using meta 4 tracking computers

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
vyshnegradsky
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#13 - 2013-02-04 10:28:08 UTC
SinTeryx wrote:
vyshnegradsky wrote:
SinTeryx wrote:
Hey guys...ran a few level 4's last night in my Armageddon and struggled along. It was slow...my tank was pretty week. A corp mate gave me an Apocalypse and I started throwing together a fitting:

Apocalypse
High:
7x Mega Pulse Laser II

Medium:
3x Cap Recharger II
1x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)

Low:
1x Damage Control II
2x Armor Hardeners (Depending on the mission enemies)
3x Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1x Large Armor Repairer II

Rigs:
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones:
10x Hobgob II

I am cap stable at 52% with 28.4k EHP 600+ DPS based on charges.

Any input would be great! Thanks in advance!
-Sin


I'm sorry but have you not heard of the search function? There's even a thread about fitting the same damn ship right below this thread!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200825&find=unread


So I am required to post in another persons post about a different fit? Sorry I don't have the ISK to spend on a full navy fitting, and no...no it isn't the same fit. Move along.

Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile


Magstab?


You use the fit as a base, just because it has faction equipment, doesnt mean it needs them. Downgrade if neccesary. That still doesn't stop you doing a quick google or forum search. Stop cluttering the place up.

This one's a bit over the edge guys.

Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#14 - 2013-02-04 10:42:00 UTC
Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile



magstab?

you fitting rails on your apoc???
SinTeryx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-02-04 13:54:21 UTC
vyshnegradsky wrote:
SinTeryx wrote:
vyshnegradsky wrote:
SinTeryx wrote:
Hey guys...ran a few level 4's last night in my Armageddon and struggled along. It was slow...my tank was pretty week. A corp mate gave me an Apocalypse and I started throwing together a fitting:

Apocalypse
High:
7x Mega Pulse Laser II

Medium:
3x Cap Recharger II
1x Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range Script)

Low:
1x Damage Control II
2x Armor Hardeners (Depending on the mission enemies)
3x Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1x Large Armor Repairer II

Rigs:
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Drones:
10x Hobgob II

I am cap stable at 52% with 28.4k EHP 600+ DPS based on charges.

Any input would be great! Thanks in advance!
-Sin


I'm sorry but have you not heard of the search function? There's even a thread about fitting the same damn ship right below this thread!

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200825&find=unread


So I am required to post in another persons post about a different fit? Sorry I don't have the ISK to spend on a full navy fitting, and no...no it isn't the same fit. Move along.

Kasutra wrote:
You dropped a magstab in favour of an EANM. Don't do that! Big smile


Magstab?


You use the fit as a base, just because it has faction equipment, doesnt mean it needs them. Downgrade if neccesary. That still doesn't stop you doing a quick google or forum search. Stop cluttering the place up.


As stated previously...I bolded what you should take out of the text. If you are not going to help then why are you still here? Especially since I am "cluttering up the place" why would you keep bumping my topic?

These may as well be farts in the wind but I have had a few beers since the start of this thread.
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#16 - 2013-02-04 23:23:58 UTC
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T-A-C-H-Y-O-N
J-O-Y
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#17 - 2013-02-05 02:20:26 UTC
PMolkenthin wrote:
Try fitting a Micro Jump Drive. It's saved my Navy Apoc a few times when running plexes and sanctums. If you get neuted/webbed/scrammed, then hit the MJD, load scorch and move back in.


Can you use that when you are scrambled?
Anachronic
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#18 - 2013-02-05 02:29:12 UTC
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
PMolkenthin wrote:
Try fitting a Micro Jump Drive. It's saved my Navy Apoc a few times when running plexes and sanctums. If you get neuted/webbed/scrammed, then hit the MJD, load scorch and move back in.


Can you use that when you are scrambled?


As far as I know you lose functionality on the MJD if you are under a scram
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-02-05 06:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Caitlyn Tufy
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
PMolkenthin wrote:
Try fitting a Micro Jump Drive. It's saved my Navy Apoc a few times when running plexes and sanctums. If you get neuted/webbed/scrammed, then hit the MJD, load scorch and move back in.


Can you use that when you are scrambled?


Yes, MJD works with NPC scram. The only things stopping it are player scramble and scripted warp disruption field.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#20 - 2013-02-05 06:30:07 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
PMolkenthin wrote:
Try fitting a Micro Jump Drive. It's saved my Navy Apoc a few times when running plexes and sanctums. If you get neuted/webbed/scrammed, then hit the MJD, load scorch and move back in.


Can you use that when you are scrambled?


Yes, MJD works with NPC scram. The only things stopping it are player scramble and scripted warp disruption field.


MJD does not work with scram but as NPC don't scram (they point) it works in pve.
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