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High sec, get ready to be represented! James 315 announced his candidacy for CSM 8 in Brapelille!!!

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Niko Trive
Doomheim
#221 - 2013-03-14 02:11:23 UTC
James 315 has done nothing for high sec in terms of improving it other than encourage hate and discontent. Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game. Why? Because New Order ganks anyone they think is "botting" in high sec or is maybe afk.

Who made them the judge, jury, and executioners of High Sec? So what if someone needed to use the bathroom or answered the phone and left his keyboard while mining. Who are they to decide if someone is bottin? What proof do they have for botters? The programming code? I don't like botting or folks who afk mine on purpose anymore than the next guy, but that is CCP's problem to solve. And for James 315 and his followers to make this decision for CCP is just pure horse-manure.

And btw, CCP just kicked a bunch of bot'ers not that long ago, so James 315 really doesn't have a logical leg to stand on. His philosophy is a just another con artist job. Wake up folks! 10 million isk to mine in high sec? Extortion is what that is called.

I also doubt he will be a good CSM because he doesn't represent High Sec folks at all. He doesn't represent me, nor will he if my vote counts for anything. High sec is where we new players learn to play the game. High Sec is where the bulk ore is mined to supply the wars in Low and Null sec. When we are ready for a challenge then we go to low and null sec where ganking is the norm. The action is in low and null, not high sec. And after reading most of www.minerbumping.com I have come to the conclusion that James 315 and his followers are p!$$ ants, losers who couldn't cut it in low and null sec.

Now if CCP was serious about law enforcement in High Sec, all of these "High Sec saviors" with negative security ratings would be blown up upon entering high sec on the spot. No questions, no warnings, no nothing. You earned that negative security rating so you live with it. Why should new players have to suffer for the morons and jerks like James 315?

James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#222 - 2013-03-14 02:26:37 UTC
Niko Trive wrote:
Who made them the judge, jury, and executioners of High Sec?

They did. If you don't like it you should do something about it.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Wescro2
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#223 - 2013-03-14 02:37:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Wescro2
Niko Trive wrote:
James 315 has done nothing for high sec in terms of improving it other than encourage hate and discontent.


300+ shareholders and 100+ knights and agents disagree with you.

Niko Trive wrote:
Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game.


Citation needed.

Niko Trive wrote:
Why? Because New Order ganks anyone they think is "botting" in high sec or is maybe afk.


You're damn right we do.

I'll leave the rest of the rant alone or for another thread maybe. This thread is about James 315's CSM candidacy, not the New Order of High Sec.

Niko Trive wrote:
High sec is where we new players learn to play the game.


So you do agree with James 315.

Niko Trive wrote:
James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.


I think I know what you are upset about, but sadly I can not disclose it due to forum rules. You shouldn't have been flying that Mackinaw in 0.5 space with minimal tank. Being accosted by James 315's people in game is no reason to not support his platform. I've been ganked by goons before but I still think Mynnna is a good candidate. Let's not let our personal issues get in the way of fixing high sec.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#224 - 2013-03-14 02:47:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
A safe high-sec will make it even harder for new-players to transition into the risks of low and null.

If a risk-adverse player quits because he was ganked, well, we never wanted him in the game in the first place. And we've done something about it.

"New players sign up for Eve because they think that they can play the way they want in the sandbox. New players leave Eve because veterans kick over their sand castles and tell them that there is no safe place for a new player to build them. We have veterans whose sandbox is gathering the tears of the new player, and if the new player quits because of it, well, the veterans didn’t want that new player anyway."

- http://artofwar-alliance.com/2013/01/30/crabs-in-a-bucket/

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

Vin King
State War Academy
Caldari State
#225 - 2013-03-14 02:49:34 UTC
Niko Trive wrote:

Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game.


I subbed two accounts on account (get it) of the New Order. Prior to that, I have never played the game. James has added players to the game.

Proud member of the New Order of HighSec

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#226 - 2013-03-14 03:15:46 UTC
James has not only added players to the game, he's made hisec alot less boring.

Hell, there are players who purposely mine in New Order systems in the hope of getting shot at.......

No, I don't get it either......but they do.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#227 - 2013-03-14 09:32:31 UTC  |  Edited by: TheGunslinger42
Niko Trive wrote:
James 315 has done nothing for high sec in terms of improving it other than encourage hate and discontent. Him and his followers know as New Order have run more new players off and they have quit the game. Why? Because New Order ganks anyone they think is "botting" in high sec or is maybe afk.


Care to prove that, mate? Frankly I'm quite tired of the "new players are quitting because of miner bumping/ganking!" lies I see spread on these forums. For a start, CCP themselves have stated that ganking is at an all time low, so there must be fewer people quitting now than ever before, right? Also, how do you claim we're driving away new players when the vast vast majority of our targets are in exhumers and orcas? Ships that take quite a while to train for and hundreds of millions of isk to buy don't strike me as newbie ships.

Niko Trive wrote:
Who made them the judge, jury, and executioners of High Sec? So what if someone needed to use the bathroom or answered the phone and left his keyboard while mining. Who are they to decide if someone is bottin? What proof do they have for botters? The programming code? I don't like botting or folks who afk mine on purpose anymore than the next guy, but that is CCP's problem to solve. And for James 315 and his followers to make this decision for CCP is just pure horse-manure.

And btw, CCP just kicked a bunch of bot'ers not that long ago, so James 315 really doesn't have a logical leg to stand on. His philosophy is a just another con artist job. Wake up folks! 10 million isk to mine in high sec? Extortion is what that is called.


We made ourselves judge, jury and executioner. We have the power to protect highsec, and we use it. Welcome to the sandbox, baby.

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I also doubt he will be a good CSM because he doesn't represent High Sec folks at all. He doesn't represent me, nor will he if my vote counts for anything. High sec is where we new players learn to play the game. High Sec is where the bulk ore is mined to supply the wars in Low and Null sec. When we are ready for a challenge then we go to low and null sec where ganking is the norm. The action is in low and null, not high sec. And after reading most of www.minerbumping.com I have come to the conclusion that James 315 and his followers are p!$$ ants, losers who couldn't cut it in low and null sec.

Now if CCP was serious about law enforcement in High Sec, all of these "High Sec saviors" with negative security ratings would be blown up upon entering high sec on the spot. No questions, no warnings, no nothing. You earned that negative security rating so you live with it. Why should new players have to suffer for the morons and jerks like James 315?

James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.


You've included a lot of fallacies here. Lets start with the most basic one: That highsec is there to teach new players how to play. That's pure crap. Plenty of new players go straight to low or null sec and make their starts there - baptism by fire, and all that. New players flooding directly into nullsec is actually how goonswarm came to power in null, just so you know. New players do NOT need to stay in highsec to learn how to play, it's insulting to say that they do, especially when there are innumerable examples demonstrating what a falsehood that is.

Saying the bears of highsec will go to low/null when they "are ready" is another falsehood. There are plenty who simply have no interest in going to low or null - and that's fine, but the implication that more of you would end up venturing into low and null if only those nasty nasty gankers would stop interfering with them in highsec is laughable. It's another flat out lie.

Your statement that "the action is in low and null, not high sec" is also rather ridiculous. There has always been action in highsec, in a number of forms. It was designed that way. It wasn't designed as an area of space in which no pvp action takes place, merely a one where it's slightly more limited and with certain consequences.

PS there was far too much ad hominem in your post, u mad bro?
Usalon Mikakka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#228 - 2013-03-17 11:25:16 UTC
If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers.
Primary Me
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#229 - 2013-03-17 19:46:19 UTC
Usalon Mikakka wrote:
If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers.

Citation needed.

Or is this you and all your alts?
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#230 - 2013-03-18 01:16:02 UTC
Usalon Mikakka wrote:
If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers.


Too bad we have a democratic process then. Democracy - 3 wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.

James does well in keeping the sheep population down, if it grows too large, they might just out-vote us. *shudders*

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#231 - 2013-03-18 09:51:32 UTC
Usalon Mikakka wrote:
If this smelly little douche bag gets in then, then say good bye to about 500k subscribers.


ad hominem + ridiculously exaggerated claims of hundreds of thousands of players quitting = badpost please try again
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#232 - 2013-03-20 00:39:11 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
ridiculously exaggerated writing...

****, j315 fans ought to be right at home then....

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Bantara
Dolmite Cornerstone
#233 - 2013-03-21 15:53:05 UTC
Niko Trive wrote:
James 315 you are a LOSER, you will not, ever, get my vote for CSM.

The prophet Niko! lol....