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Taraxon Taranogas
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-02-03 19:02:15 UTC
So is it a Thumbs down on investing with these guys?
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-02-03 19:23:24 UTC
I don't know who you're talking about, yet I can still confidently say "yes".

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Taraxon Taranogas
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-02-03 19:24:35 UTC
It was to New Eden Trading. Looks like yet another scam.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-02-03 19:35:35 UTC
its a scam
http://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180628&find=unread

are they still spamming all the channels with it? jeeez, thats some dedication, I give em that

shar'ra phone home
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#5 - 2013-02-03 19:44:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Grison
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yes
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-02-04 00:10:36 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
Definite Scam.


Gents,

Please keep in mind the following:

1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk
2. Our returns are realistic
3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market

Thank you


Ethan Freeman
Forum Liaison/Account Manager
New Eden Trade Group
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-02-04 01:36:29 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:
Definite Scam.


Gents,

Please keep in mind the following:

1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk
2. Our returns are realistic
3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market

Thank you


Ethan Freeman
Forum Liaison/Account Manager
New Eden Trade Group



outstanding perseverance. bravo.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-02-04 04:49:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Daniel Plain wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:
Definite Scam.


Gents,

Please keep in mind the following:

1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk
2. Our returns are realistic
3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market

Thank you


Ethan Freeman
Forum Liaison/Account Manager
New Eden Trade Group



outstanding perseverance. bravo.


Its not about perseverance. All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-02-04 06:47:55 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:

1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk


more like leaving convo when somebody ask for a collateral?

shar'ra phone home
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-02-04 06:55:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:

1. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk


more like leaving convo when somebody ask for a collateral?


This is a false statement.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-02-04 07:05:27 UTC
Screenshots and data void go a long way to validating claims on the part of the NEWTG. Perhaps create a thread, and prove your legitimacy. Have VV verify apis, or something.
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-02-04 07:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Arronicus wrote:
Screenshots and data void go a long way to validating claims on the part of the NEWTG. Perhaps create a thread, and prove your legitimacy. Have VV verify apis, or something.


For any who are interested https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=198823&find=unread

Explains why we wont bother posting screen shots, because they can be modified with paint and are pointless.

We wont release an API because we offer full collateral and have sensitive information to protect.

All covered in the link above.


Ethan
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-02-04 13:17:26 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
Ethan Freeman wrote:


Explains why we wont bother posting screen shots, because they can be modified with paint and are pointless.

We wont release an API because we offer full collateral and have sensitive information to protect.

All covered in the link above.


such lame excuses...

ofc screenshots can be manipulated, but a) not by anyone (YOU) b) certainly not with a program like paint. But simply providing nothing because there is a chance of manipulation is just bad/dumb.

He did also not askyou to release your API (read more carefully please). He just recommended to give it to a third party like VV. to keep your super secret market gems.

btw. API`s are customizable now, you can just uncheck the transaction box, that way we would just see the market fee`s and no items that are beeing traded, but we would see that somethign is going on.

Ethan Freeman wrote:

3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market


plz do!

shar'ra phone home
flakeys
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-02-04 14:33:37 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere.



How many human members are there ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-02-04 18:56:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:


Explains why we wont bother posting screen shots, because they can be modified with paint and are pointless.

We wont release an API because we offer full collateral and have sensitive information to protect.

All covered in the link above.


such lame excuses...

ofc screenshots can be manipulated, but a) not by anyone (YOU) b) certainly not with a program like paint. But simply providing nothing because there is a chance of manipulation is just bad/dumb.

He did also not askyou to release your API (read more carefully please). He just recommended to give it to a third party like VV. to keep your super secret market gems.

btw. API`s are customizable now, you can just uncheck the transaction box, that way we would just see the market fee`s and no items that are beeing traded, but we would see that somethign is going on.

Ethan Freeman wrote:

3. We can prove we have hundreds of billions rolled into the market


plz do!



Also, we need to keep our manufacturing wing confidential along with our market gems.

As far as proving hundreds of billions rolled into the market, Ash offered to show you ship inventory in game by modifying orders. You declined all requests to talk in game.
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-02-04 19:02:04 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere.



How many human members are there ?


4
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#17 - 2013-02-04 19:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Grison
██████████████████████████████████████████████████


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yes
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-02-04 20:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Alex Grison wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
All members of NETG have at minimum a year or so of experience in the market independently, and now that we have consolidated our resources and knowledge, we are not going anywhere.



How many human members are there ?


4


Please inform me how all 4 people are actively trading with the corp's money without blatant corporate security risks.


All real life friends, two of which are brothers.

Edit: To answer the follow up question. The CEO of NETG has been playing eve for more than 5 years on and off. Over the years he has invited curious friends to try game and paid their subs with plex until they determined whether or not to stick around. Eve isnt for everyone, so few activated accounts. Even fewer play the market, those that do make up the NETG team.
shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-02-04 22:38:03 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:

Also, we need to keep our manufacturing wing confidential along with our market gems.

As far as proving hundreds of billions rolled into the market, Ash offered to show you ship inventory in game by modifying orders. You declined all requests to talk in game.


yea that convo...besides some offending phrases regarding my alt-posting and my attitude was absolutely nothing beeing said in that conversation, thats why I left.

why cant you send an api to a chribba-like-person again? Or are you telling us that you have such brilliant market ideas that even chribba/VV etc. would screw their reputation and exploit your api data? if your that good, how come your still looking for so much isk-help and spam every single channel, all day long?

If I would like to pledge, lets say 80b, what kind of collateral could I expect from you?

shar'ra phone home
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-02-04 23:04:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:

Also, we need to keep our manufacturing wing confidential along with our market gems.

As far as proving hundreds of billions rolled into the market, Ash offered to show you ship inventory in game by modifying orders. You declined all requests to talk in game.


yea that convo...besides some offending phrases regarding my alt-posting and my attitude was absolutely nothing beeing said in that conversation, thats why I left.

why cant you send an api to a chribba-like-person again? Or are you telling us that you have such brilliant market ideas that even chribba/VV etc. would screw their reputation and exploit your api data? if your that good, how come your still looking for so much isk-help and spam every single channel, all day long?

If I would like to pledge, lets say 80b, what kind of collateral could I expect from you?


Your claim that there ever was a in game convo in which you were shown inventory is false.

As the liaison between my corp and the forums, one of my responsibilities is to keep a detailed log of all interactions between my mates and regulars on Market Discussion. My records shows that no such conversation in game ever took place between any NETG members and shar'ra matcevsovski. The CEO has eve mailed you regarding things not related to NETG, but other than that, there has been no conversations. Please stop making false statements about the dealing of NETG.

There is no reason to go through the hassle of releasing an API and having an audit done because we offer full collateral for isk borrowed.

Another false statement you have made is that we spam channels all day long. This simply is not the truth.

Do you intend to pledge 80bil? because if not, I'm not going to waste valuable time looking over our inventory, when that time can be used modifying orders. We have investors to pay.

Again, please stop making false statements about my corp.

Thank you
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