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Give Cloaking the ASB / AAR treatment
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Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-02-02 19:37:00 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Noone has ever been killed by an AFK player


Noone has ever been killed by a cloaked player.


In order to killsomeone they have to stop being afk and uncloak.



HTFU


Double Facepalm
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2013-02-02 20:18:12 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Noone has ever been killed by an AFK player


Noone has ever been killed by a cloaked player.


In order to killsomeone they have to stop being afk and uncloak.



HTFU


Double Facepalm



Explain why he's wrong then.
Kiran
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-02-02 20:44:14 UTC
Cloaking problem = no problem at all. Problem solved now close this thread.
Pesadel0
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-02-02 20:53:08 UTC
Sorry nop.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#25 - 2013-02-02 21:05:57 UTC  |  Edited by: sYnc Vir
Lunaleil Fournier wrote:
AFK Cloaking - problem.

Cloak cycle time - 5 minutes
Reload time - 5 minutes
Capacity - 6 charges for covert ops cloaks (30 minutes before reload), 3 for non covops cloaks (15 minutes before reload)
Charges are required to cloak

AFK cloaking - solved.


AFK cloakers are not a problem, because they are AFK!

If they are not AFK and KIll you for flying unprepared for player on player "hellos" then that's a problem, but not with cloaking or AFK. As to do either the once cloaked guy has to uncloak and, this is the important thing, Be at his keyboard.

The only problem "AFK cloaking" brings to the game, is none pussy players have to read threads by pve's crying about there farms having wolfs in them.

Try living by the Unwritten Eve rules. Most though, Never undock not ready to defend yourself in space that was made to make people defend themselves.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2013-02-02 21:06:22 UTC
AFK cloaking is fine, cloaking in general is not. Represents an enormous intel gathering mechanism and tactical advantage, far greater than the risk/investment warrants.

- Deny the use of directional scan while cloaked. If an intel operation wants data they can put either the ship or probes out there for the world to see .. coverts don't care as they can warp around to get eyes on any point they want .. will just be more involved.
- Increase re-calibration delay and extend the effect of it to include all modules fitted to a ship. There has to be a strong incentive to spend the time to train that last level, especially now that CCP is ready to launch "Cloaking for Dummies" by tweaking fittings downwards.
Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2013-02-02 21:41:09 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
AFK cloaking is fine, cloaking in general is not. Represents an enormous intel gathering mechanism and tactical advantage, far greater than the risk/investment warrants.

- Deny the use of directional scan while cloaked. If an intel operation wants data they can put either the ship or probes out there for the world to see .. coverts don't care as they can warp around to get eyes on any point they want .. will just be more involved.
- Increase re-calibration delay and extend the effect of it to include all modules fitted to a ship. There has to be a strong incentive to spend the time to train that last level, especially now that CCP is ready to launch "Cloaking for Dummies" by tweaking fittings downwards.



It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2013-02-02 22:24:30 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
AFK cloaking is fine, cloaking in general is not. Represents an enormous intel gathering mechanism and tactical advantage, far greater than the risk/investment warrants.

- Deny the use of directional scan while cloaked. If an intel operation wants data they can put either the ship or probes out there for the world to see .. coverts don't care as they can warp around to get eyes on any point they want .. will just be more involved.
- Increase re-calibration delay and extend the effect of it to include all modules fitted to a ship. There has to be a strong incentive to spend the time to train that last level, especially now that CCP is ready to launch "Cloaking for Dummies" by tweaking fittings downwards.



It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.



Explain why.
Evanga
DoctorOzz
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#29 - 2013-02-02 23:42:48 UTC
My redeemer runs on tears instead of isotopes, you sir, just gave me fuel for 2years Cool
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#30 - 2013-02-03 00:21:52 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:

It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.


is this where the afk cloakers touched u?

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#31 - 2013-02-03 00:26:57 UTC
Mag's wrote:
TravelBuoy wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Oh look, it's this thread again.

No.


Oh look. it's another chicken cloaker.
Which begs the question: What method does Paikis use, to cloak these chickens?
And how would he feed them, if he can't see them? Shocked

I have discovered a genuine cloaking issue.

Farmers with cloaked and AFK chickens.

Their eggs show up randomly around the hen-house... noone is sure how to find them.

On the plus side, these eggs are apparently low calorie, and cholesterol free.

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#32 - 2013-02-03 00:32:42 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Mag's wrote:
TravelBuoy wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Oh look, it's this thread again.

No.


Oh look. it's another chicken cloaker.
Which begs the question: What method does Paikis use, to cloak these chickens?
And how would he feed them, if he can't see them? Shocked

I have discovered a genuine cloaking issue.

Farmers with cloaked and AFK chickens.

Their eggs show up randomly around the hen-house... noone is sure how to find them.

On the plus side, these eggs are apparently low calorie, and cholesterol free.


are they also tasteless and have an air-like texture...?

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#33 - 2013-02-03 00:36:02 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Mag's wrote:
TravelBuoy wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Oh look, it's this thread again.

No.


Oh look. it's another chicken cloaker.
Which begs the question: What method does Paikis use, to cloak these chickens?
And how would he feed them, if he can't see them? Shocked

I have discovered a genuine cloaking issue.

Farmers with cloaked and AFK chickens.

Their eggs show up randomly around the hen-house... noone is sure how to find them.

On the plus side, these eggs are apparently low calorie, and cholesterol free.


are they also tasteless and have an air-like texture...?

Oh, you tried em too?

I thought they were just an acquired taste. Maybe they need to be prepared a certain way...

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#34 - 2013-02-03 00:43:53 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:

Oh, you tried em too?

I thought they were just an acquired taste. Maybe they need to be prepared a certain way...


i fry them. like my pork wings, yeti steak and snark legs.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2013-02-03 01:08:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:

It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.


is this where the afk cloakers touched u?


No thats was, where the ship not warped out, thx for CCP bugfest and where you see there a single cloaker ship in km, you tard ?
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#36 - 2013-02-03 01:15:06 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:

It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.


is this where the afk cloakers touched u?


No thats was, where the ship not warped out, thx for CCP bugfest.
And where you see there cloaker ships you noob ?


lol afk cloakers dnt have to use covert cloaks, genius.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-02-03 01:23:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:

It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.


is this where the afk cloakers touched u?


No thats was, where the ship not warped out, thx for CCP bugfest.
And where you see there cloaker ships you noob ?


lol afk cloakers dnt have to use covert cloaks, genius.


You tard they never cloaked in the system, but you realy know better than me, who was there.


GM Ukulele:
"We apologize for the late reply and appreciate your patience.
Unfortunately as GM Ocelot indicated, we see no indication of a fault with the game or server connectivity at the time of your loss. We do see that you aligned at 14:51 and issued the command to warp at 14:52"
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#38 - 2013-02-03 01:34:35 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:

It's bullshit. 24/7 AFK cloaking is not fine.


is this where the afk cloakers touched u?


No thats was, where the ship not warped out, thx for CCP bugfest.
And where you see there cloaker ships you noob ?


lol afk cloakers dnt have to use covert cloaks, genius.


You tard they never cloaked in the system, but you realy know better than me, who was there.


GM Ukulele:
"We apologize for the late reply and appreciate your patience.
Unfortunately as GM Ocelot indicated, we see no indication of a fault with the game or server connectivity at the time of your loss. We do see that you aligned at 14:51 and issued the command to warp at 14:52"


yeah scrams do that

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-02-03 02:04:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:


is this where the afk cloakers touched u?


No thats was, where the ship not warped out, thx for CCP bugfest.
And where you see there cloaker ships you noob ?


lol afk cloakers dnt have to use covert cloaks, genius.


You tard they never cloaked in the system, but you realy know better than me, who was there.


GM Ukulele:
"We apologize for the late reply and appreciate your patience.
Unfortunately as GM Ocelot indicated, we see no indication of a fault with the game or server connectivity at the time of your loss. We do see that you aligned at 14:51 and issued the command to warp at 14:52"


yeah scrams do that


oh my god. You alt tard, our fleet warped out before the enemy ship landed. Exaclty other ship could warp out, but mine didn't.
I did the fleetwarp because i was the fleet commander and i gave to order to align too. But my ship not warped out. And no the NPC-s didn't scrambled me because no scram ship at Serpentis Forsaken hub!!!

From petition:

"My ship was not bumped aligned full speed to safepos, my cache was clear and thats nothing to do with warp.
Check R0nnie Vanzant logs too, when he got the fleetwarp order. (14:52:20 Notify Following Hun Jakuza in warp.) Check when he did the align too, that's could be same time, because i gave the order instantly when we saw the enemy

You see in log when i aligned, u should be see there when i gave the order to fleetwarp."

So you think about you are so smart, but you dont know nothing from what happened there.
So, just HTFU. And again never was there a cloaked ship, because i saw the enemy when he came in the system (was the cynabal), and that's why i started to align with my fleet and that's why i started to warp to safepos instantly when i saw the enemy ship on dir scan. But thx for CCP our other ship warped out, but my ship did nothing.

GM Ukulele

"We are sorry you are dissatisfied with the outcome of your petition, but as mentioned previously we are unable to verify that the game behaved outside of intended mechanics during the events which culminated in your ship loss. We do see that you aligned well prior to your attempted warp"
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-02-03 02:07:44 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:

oh my god. You alt tard, our fleet warped out before the enemy ship landed. Exaclty other ship could warp out, but mine didn't.
I did the fleetwarp because i was the fleet commander and i gave to order to align too. But my ship not warped out. And no the NPC-s didn't scrambled me because no scram ship at Serpentis Forsaken hub!!!

From petition:

"My ship was not bumped aligned full speed to safepos, my cache was clear and thats nothing to do with warp.
Check R0nnie Vanzant logs too, when he got the fleetwarp order. (14:52:20 Notify Following Hun Jakuza in warp.) Check when he did the align too, that's could be same time, because i gave the order instantly when we saw the enemy

You see in log when i aligned, u should be see there when i gave the order to fleetwarp."

So think about you are so smart, but you dont know nothing from what happened there.
So, just HTFU. And again never was there a cloaked ship, because i saw the enemy when he came in the system (was the cynabal), and that's why i started to align with my fleet and that's why i started to warp to safepos instantly when i saw the enemy ship on dir scan. But thx for CCP our other ship warped out, but my ship did nothing.

GM Ukulele

"We are sorry you are dissatisfied with the outcome of your petition, but as mentioned previously we are unable to verify that the game behaved outside of intended mechanics during the events which culminated in your ship loss. We do see that you aligned well prior to your attempted warp"

You were either, not aligned or aligned to the wrong thing.
Sorry to say but you did something stupid, not the game.