Skill Discussions

I don't think players generate much load on the server if they are AFK. It's only when they start doing things, especially combat, that the server has to actually do something other than just maintain a TCP connection. So I think that having most of the player base logged on AFK most of the time wouldn't be a big deal. Besides given the huge number of alts in Eve there will be an awfully large number of toons that won't login unless another toon on the same account logs out. Then again I could be wrong.



I agree completely here. I know plenty of people that stopped training their main to train an alt or two for very long periods of time. I also know people who just forget to train their toons for weeks or even months at a time. And a great many high SP toons just aren't around any more due to people quitting. And lots of people (myself included) have taken breaks from the game for months or even years at a time. And people do forget to update their medical clones now and then and loose SP when they get podded. And people loose T3 cruisers fairly often and have to retrain the sub systems.

And years back when we had learning skills that took about 2 months to fully train (and as a result most people didn't train them all to 5) and before remaps existed the average SP/hour was way lower than it is today with everyone already having all the learning skills "built in" and specialized remaps allowing for per/wil and int/mem alternating yearly plans at max training speed.

The advantage that older toons have really isn't as big as some people seem to think it is. Sure there are guys out there with 2003-2004 toons that have silly amounts of SP, but there really aren't that many of them. And people seem to forget, once you reach a certain level of SP your ability to make ISK doesn't really go up as you gain SP anymore. But the cost of your medical clone never stops going up a long as you keep training.

This idea is great and I am totally support of this idea for the following reasons
1. So people will shut up and stop asking same things again and again
2. Make it $100 USD per 1 sp, so if people want a million sp, they need to pay 100 million USD to CCP. CCP can use the money to
hire dev and improve game content for all players. And millions sp won't break the game
3. Pilots can brag about they have a character worth multi-hundreds million USD in game in front of his friends
4. When podded without clone upgrade generates more tears because the player just lost billions in USD
5. False sense of wealth makes people spend more in rl. Worlds Economy becomes better,
6. Free advertisement I am pretty sure there will be news if CCP implement this. Also CCP will become hero when the economy go straight up
7. CCP become multi quadrillion USD worth company just by implementing this and dominate the world
8. Eve becomes real world and all players happy

Please implement for benefits of all
And because I give the idea of 100USD per 1 SP
Please gimme 10% when people buy the sp please

and what is plex for ISK then?

Trading an in game item, for game time.

Sounds like P2W to me.

If eve ever starts really dying as opposed to forum drama dying, then I might accept it as a necessary evil, but until then it's a bad idea that should be forgotten asap.

T1 ships that are actually good at something has done more to close the SP gap than this sort of BS will ever achieve.

Anyway, experience, confidence, and contacts are what make you win at eve, SP is something that sorts itself out as you gather those 3.

I may be new but I still read the wiki entry for goonswarm. They weren't a "group of newbies". They were a bunch of internet asshats from somethingawful who organized several campaigns to get massive number of forum posters to join and try to cause the game to fail by super-griefing everybody. The fact that they were up against the band of brothers who cheated using devs doesn't change that fact.

Ok lets entertain this idea.

noob) "I want a way to catch up with that 200 mil SP Vet?"
CCP) "OK we will let you have 1 mil SP per plex instant transfer"
noob) "cool i can afford to sink £900 in here so thats about 60 plex. Wow 120 mil SP im well on my way to catching him. well almost maybe i can afford to catch up more next month too."

far away near a distant star

Elitist McVeteran) "Wow noob has suddenly jumped from 1 mil to 121mil SP in a day, I need to get further ahead."
***Jumps out of his bath full of ISK and goes into ISK hanger 1 to start counting.
Elitist McVeteran) "BROKER. BROKER where are you?"
Broker) "Yes Elitist"
Elitist McVeteran) "here's 100billion anychance you could buy us 200 Plex tokens?"
Broker) "you know me I always like broker fee's. hehehehe"


...sometime later

Broker) "here you go I got those tokens for you only managed 190 due to inflation from buying so many, Fly safe dont want to get ganked with that in your cargo"
Elitist McVeteran) "Dont worry your self over that its SP im after. CCP! CCP! Give me 190 mil SP please.




As you can see from the RP. Your suggestion is flawed, badly flawed.

Anyway there is a hard Cap to how many SP are usefull to a certain ship/role. A vet will have hit this cap so with out even logging on your closing the gap by ~1.5 m SP per month assuming you keep your skill queue full.

Yes they were. They will tell you this themselves. In fact I suspect they will tell you that they still suck at Eve today despite their incredible success.



So?



I don't see how that is relevant. If anything it just further demonstrates my point.

Not sure why new players feel they can't "catch up" with veterans - the fact is you can only use a certain amount of skills at any one time. Unless there's a way to train skills past level 5 that appeared out of nowhere, all those millions of extra sp's do is give a player more choices in what ships they can fly effectively - it doesn't make them better in them.

As for plex or another way to buy sp's - it wouldn't close the gap to a lot of older vets. Even with big diminishing returns as suggested there's a few of us that would probably still max out every skill simply because we could.

Would you spend 500M to get 1000 SP, 5000 SP, 10k SP? If the answer is no, then it's likely that there is some level of diminishing returns that older players wouldn't buy out and it doesn't matter if one or two do. The question is if most of them would.

Additionally even if players would do that, then at least there would be a time that they would make themselves cash poor in order to do it. And frankly I imagine money is what separates veterans from new players more than SP. Veterans can afford to throw away ships (even to suicide gank if need be). New players can't afford to be so cavalier.