EVE General Discussion

Can we call that a Godwin? It's close enough, right?

That would require me to read it.
Since the goons joined eve in 2006 it was stated their goal was to destroy the game.
Can't say that it is working. But some of their actions have sure hurt quite a few people.

So, you can't. Thanks for playing.

I often hear an argument used mostly against "abstract nullseccer", which is "We aren't there for your entertainment". Nothing wrong with it working both ways.

Same goes to short exchange about "power projection" above. Regardless of the way it works, it works both way.

There's a form you fill out to let CCP know where and when you plan to have a bunch of guys in a system.

Once upon a time you needed to do this if you expected even 600 people would be in a single system shooting each other. If you didn't, the server would crash.

Rydis has a point. It's one thing to lose a Titan when the pilot makes a mistake, it's another when you're booted from the server due to activity, and can't log back on in time to have a chance to save it.

Everything CCP has done with TiDi and the servers has been, in part, to reduce the need of people to have to tell them before hand.

If the result of committing strategic assets is going to be thousands of people in unreinforced system, with a chance of losing them due to crashes, then it's better to just have CCP reinforce the system to hopefully prevent that.

Had they known they were going to end up with 3000 people in a system fighting, they would have told CCP in advance.


It has nothing to do with "losing strategic assets", and everything to do with not needlessly committing them to situations where they can be lost to a black screen.

But you don't give a **** about any of that. You just want to spurge a little crap about something you don't clearly aren't familliar with.

Empire is still better than 0.0 so unless that was your aim, I would say Goons have failed their endgame.

Sure someone could mention RMT as a goal, but lets be honest here, if you are playing a game to make $$ for a boat, then you must have a pretty terrible life.

To quote Admiral Akbar, 'It's a trap!'

I have zero experience with the situation and freely admit it; however I read that as: "We won't commit super-caps in low anymore, at all, ever, nope, not happening.... until we're sure we can use this our advantage by committing super-caps in low."

my (ill-informed) $.02 ISK

Uh huh.....gotcha.

Excellent summary.

Another thing people in empire space may not know. Losing is a super is a Big Deal. It's a big deal in terms of ISK lost, alone. However, replacing the things is even worse. It takes 3 or 4 hours to replace a battleship loss-and those are built in bulk in empire. The logistics team can just truck those up from Jita when we whelp an Alpha Fleet. (Whelping an Alpha fleet is actually a little more than losing a super carrier, ISK wise.) For a regular capital, it's a two week production time. So, if an alliance's dread fleet is whelped, they are without those capitals for two weeks, leaving their systems vulnerable. For a supercarrier it's about a month to replace, a titan is much longer. And, they have to be built in a CSAA, making them the only ships in the game that can be destroyed while being built. So yeah, while the CFC can easily replace the supers lost in Asakai, in terms of ISK, it's still going to take time.

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building hundreds of supercaps and shoving holding alts into them is more expensive and less useful than building dozens of supercaps and shoving actual supercap pilots into them

the reason the asakai welp wasn't catastrophic financially was because we have a massive warchest specifically to deal with that kind of thing