EVE General Discussion

you dont say?

You play a different game, then. Which is fine. But calling on others to play like you like, instead of as they like is pointless, and misses the whole idea of 'sandbox' - we all in the same universe, but we each get to play as we like. You get an adrenaline thrill from runnning the gauntlet. Others get a thrill in the stalk, the setup, the leap and kill. Either way works - trying to force the others into your corner of the sandbox won't work though.

Real-wrold anology: You play like torpedo boat (PT Boats or Z-Boats). I, and others like me, play like submarine wolfpacks or Q-ship raiders. Still others play choke-point warfare, or patrol warfare. They all work, one is not another, all have their place.



Imagine forcing everyone to dance to your tune, even if they don't want to. Unclear on the 'sandbox' concept, much?

Last time I checked, there already is a mass limit to how many ships you can send through a bridge with a titan/blops, it is based on how much fuel they have, and the mass of the ships bridged, besides that, it is based on the max number of players in a fleet, the only way to circumvent this is to have the cyno/titan keep swapping fleets.

These limits people keep asking for do exist, they are just currently set quite high (exception of blops which will shortly be buffed to be able to bridge a decent number of ships)

PvP in Eve isn't any different than any other MMO I've ever played:


1) Superior numbers. If they bring 3 guys, you bring 20.
2) More firepower. If they bring a knife, you bring an AR-15 w/ ACOG scope and grenade launcher.
3) Kill newbies for lulz and target practice.
4) In the rare instance that it's an equal opponent...eye gouge, groin kick, bite, and scratch.
5) If you're outmatched, run like a sissy.
6) Talk smack. Talk even more smack on the forums. Internet badasses are cool.
7) 1vs1 is for chumps.
8) Feast on enemy tears.

There is no honor among thieves, and MMO PvP is no different. You need to take every advantage, because rest assured that you opponent will be. If you're trolling around looking for 1vs1 "fair" duels, at least a dozen other PvPers are going to kick you in the nuts, kill you, then spit on your grave before you find one.

Gate camps will be gone the day inter-system travel will be introduced. But this being said, many features will need to be tweaked and introduced as well. Here are a few things CCP could do:

- All ships could have a second "improved" warp system (transwarp drive) that can only be used for inter-system travel (because of some natural phenomena). This would eleminate the need to do multiple warps because you ran-out of cap. These trans-systems warps should not take to much time.

- Make it possible to be able to warp to a ship that gets into your dscan range. If the detected ship is in warp, why not even be able to follow it in warp so you can land exactly where it will be landing. You could even introduce a way to simply take ships out of warp. Interceptors would be great at this. Covert-ops ships warp signatures could be detected at the last second (give the rabbit a chance guys!!)

- Make it possible for the prey to be automaticly alerted about possible hostile ships that are about to land on their grid. (Lets give the prey at least a chance to run a bit!!)

Anyways, this is just a few things to make the cats & mouse chases more dynamic and fun. Not perfect but they could make the game interesting.

If gate camps are to eventually be removed, it should still be possible to catch prey. As for hot-drops...maybe the wolves will love chasing rabbits so much that it will lower this sort of activity.

I think OP is only complaining because he doesn't have any friend who owns a titan otherwise he'd see hot-drops completely differently.

Oh by the way, you don't HAVE to take the bait.

Just because system jump traveling in Eve is terrible as it is with free graveyard camping gates, doesn't mean if you should do it differently you had to do it as terribly as you can only see it.

Many other proposals and ideas have already been shared with players and CCP and clearly the most terrible of them is still better than yours. Be creative and you'll figure out there are better ideas for traveling than gates and wouldn't change much to conflict or ships destruction, just give the false impression of safe traveling instead of true sensation of graveyard camping like any gate can be now.

"I tried to go to low alone, and got shot at a gate"

"I tried to roam null alone, and got hotdropped"

Stop being a bad.

Pay attention to local and don't rat in belts.

You didn't point out the NOOB farming belt rats getting hotdropped.

The noob who was obviously in null, and who was obviously alone.

The noob.


WTF does a new player need to be able to rat in null belts alone for?

By all means, if you have the balls and the head to do it, do so. Don't come to the forum crying that you flew into someone elses space, started picking off someone elses potential income, and then got hotdropped by the peopel that live there.


What is with all the horrible gamers today?
When I was growing up games were kind of tough, they didn't have saves, and usually when you died you started back at the beginning. When I wasn't playing video games I was outside playing sports, because I was a typical boy that enjoyed competition. When I played sports, we kept score. Someone won, and someone lost.

It's like I'm living in a culture now that doesn't want to keep score, and doesn't any difficulty. Everyting nice and neat on a plate, and handed to me.

It's like I'm playing a game with a bunch of guys that grew up playing dollies, and who's parents put them in little league teams that didn't keep score and gave every kid a trophy. It's firgging sad.