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Consequences of A Bored Null
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#381 - 2013-02-03 02:29:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Shepard Wong Ogeko
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
shepard who is this "OEG" corp in goonswarm

goons dont belong in wicked creek



Order of Elite Games. A Russian corporation iirc.

And they are their as a consequence of nullsec boredom, or something.
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#382 - 2013-02-03 02:39:17 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Quote:
RvB is the only real PvP going on in highsec


Not by a long shot. Hundreds of corps at war with each other on any given day. Heck, I know of approx 5 active wars right now in my little corner of my region. The couple of high sec merc outfits I have contacts in stay very busy, and have multiple wars ongoing at all times.



I imagine you need multiple wars going in the hopes of finding some one to undock during a wardec.

I'll admit my perspective is different. We get wardec'ed a lot. Not as much since they raised the prices. But all it meant was that you might have to be careful undocking a goon character at Jita 4-4.

I've heard plenty of other anecdotes about people just staying docked through a wardec, or using what ever the wardec evasions method of the month is. Looked through plenty of wardec listing just to see 5 man corps waging wars on other 5 man corps. I've also seen CCP's own numbers on how few kills there are per capita in highsec. Like only 20% of the kills for having 60% of the population.

Cheap ships would only motivate highsec "PvP" if the ships got so cheap as to make the cost/benefit of ganking miners worth it again.
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#383 - 2013-02-03 03:23:36 UTC
Rellik B00n wrote:


You have to wonder after all this time what feedback from the WH experiment is coming back to CCP, and how they feel they should loop this feedback into the wider null part of the game.


You never hear any complaint from them, so they're probably doing fine.
But what is going on in that holes stay a mistery; all this people entered in there 4 years ago and since then we didn't hear any news from them.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#384 - 2013-02-03 03:24:16 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Intar Medris wrote:
Fact is there isn't anything wrong with null. What is really wrong is the biggest alliances in New Eden being afraid of having a pissing match between each other.


Why should we fight? There is little to no benefit for either side with sov/npc stuff being what it is, should we fight to please the idiots moaning about blues? Please answer that for me mr. highsec dude.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#385 - 2013-02-03 04:16:37 UTC
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
That includes highsec mission payout as well, you realize.


Highsec mission runners! With their hangers full of billion ISK ships and other collectibles. Those guys are like walking talking sinks. The only money they inject into the economy is when they buy PLEX, or the odd occasion they wake up in a pod with keyboard face.


gonna go buy some ships from NPC sell orders

can you tell me where to get those ships from NPC sell orders again

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#386 - 2013-02-03 04:20:22 UTC
also lol @ incursion runners, they were so angry about their isk fountain being nerfed and they decided that the best way to combat that nerf was to show that they were generating more isk per capita than ratters

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Frying Doom
#387 - 2013-02-03 08:29:56 UTC
Is this a Goonswarm only thread?

Sorry there are so many responses from members of Goonswarm you would think that?

Frankly I can't be bothered reading. Anyone got the cliff notes? Are they actually conversing or just trying to shut down another thread they don't like?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#388 - 2013-02-03 09:11:05 UTC
this is my thread and I'm no goon
sheeit I killed some goons today
and also instalocked and webbed one before the rest of the fleet could point it and i got yelled at
but let's not get into that
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#389 - 2013-02-03 11:18:26 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Is this a Goonswarm only thread?

Sorry there are so many responses from members of Goonswarm you would think that?

Frankly I can't be bothered reading. Anyone got the cliff notes? Are they actually conversing or just trying to shut down another thread they don't like?


Arrow------SYNOPSIS-------Idea

Highsec player wonders whats wrong w null.

Null sec player says "It's hard for us to compete industrially because indy slots are so expensive out here and their almost free and always available in highsec."

Lowsec player says "Well lets just incorporate all manufacturing slots with PI, then everyone is on the same footing."

It is pointed out that ISK faucet disparity may also play a part in null markets not developing. More ISK in null will create localized inflationary pressure that will still allow highsec to undercut null industry.

Some convo re ISK faucets and if in fact most ISK enters game through null ensues. Some silly propaganda from Test results in a page of clarification.

*sub arguments:

*high bear says "It should cost more to war dec a small corp. I'm tired of these damned ISK shakedowns. It is suggested that he pack up and move many systems away for the durration of the dec if he doesn't want to fight.

* and there's one more that I can't think of off hand.

All in all its been a very interesting thread. With all sides actually engaging in conversation rather than smear and fear obfuscation that we often see on these forums.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#390 - 2013-02-03 11:25:36 UTC
Andski wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
That includes highsec mission payout as well, you realize.


Highsec mission runners! With their hangers full of billion ISK ships and other collectibles. Those guys are like walking talking sinks. The only money they inject into the economy is when they buy PLEX, or the odd occasion they wake up in a pod with keyboard face.


gonna go buy some ships from NPC sell orders

can you tell me where to get those ships from NPC sell orders again


They are like sinks because they don't need to spend a bunch to stay in business. Once they buy or build a ship they tend to have it for a long time. And they get no advantage from owning a POS or other things people with fat wallets buy into. I think these guys are collectively sitting on Trillions and Trillions of ISK.
Corey Fumimasa
CFM Salvage
#391 - 2013-02-03 11:53:01 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Is this a Goonswarm only thread?

Sorry there are so many responses from members of Goonswarm you would think that?

Frankly I can't be bothered reading. Anyone got the cliff notes? Are they actually conversing or just trying to shut down another thread they don't like?


One very interesting fact that came out was from the question "What to null sec players actually do all day anyway?"

The answer was that they do the same things that all Eve players do. However a lot of the pilots actually play other games while waiting for combat ops to spin up. I wonder if CCP is aware of that behavior and if it matters from a games as business standpoint. Maybe that is one of reasons behind DUST. Idk, its just something that I hadn't considered before.