EVE General Discussion

This is what CCP answered to CSM, yes.

However I think that the modular POS idea could be a great opportunity to set a "trasversal" enhanchment for all the game and affecting a large part of players. I think also CCP see this and when they say "we want the POS to become something that any player would love to have" I think they mean this.

So, yes, if they are able to redesign a modular POS system able to adapt and give something to different gamestyles and needs then it's a great opportunity.

If have to be another feature enforced only to satisfate a limited lobby then is a waste.

Problem is you guys are still trapped in the Dominion mindset and see the POS revamp just in this second lobbish way.

Most the high tech stuff can ONLY be made with null moon goo and such.

Hi dosen't need a nerf, there should be some null only stufft that makes up for the for thr difference

Without going into specifics, nullsec's entire 10 year history has been centered around adding "stuff that makes up for the difference" between living in null and living in highsec.

The problem is that when CCP releases this new resource, the game continues to change ,as it has been changing since launch:
1: Players continue to gain SP, making extracting more of the resource easier then it was when the feature was originally balanced
2: Players figure out more effective methods of obtaining the resource, increasing the effective yield of the resource
3: Assuming EVE continues to grow, there will be more players extracting this resource from when the resource was originally balanced

All of these factors will increase the supply of the resource, meaning demand will lower and this new 'stuff' will grow less and less valuable, steadily lowering motivation to actually utilize and occupy 0.0 space.

I say the concept of a "resource extraction"-centric nullsec has been played out and that these giant sov alliances finally take on the benefits and the burdens of running industrially developed organizations. Rebalancing nullsec and highsec industrial capacity (not adjusting taxes) for each region's respective ship/goods consumption rate, as well as creating a null 'SuperVeld', would work to create solid material incentives for industrialists to move out as their ambitions grow and their demand for resources and industrial access increases.

Pretty much everything you describe happens when supercaps and titans are manufactured in nullsec and a rival alliance smashes their CSAA and destroys the titan in build and the blueprint along with it. People didn't stop manufacturing titans and supercaps (god no), nor did building them become unprofitable.

But smaller scale corps cant build caps and titans to defend ageist something like that unless they working for a large established alliance..

How dose new blood move in to try to move in and establish itself?

It was just an example of how industry can function even in an environment with the potential of serious loss, when the incentive is actually there. Supercap manufacturing in null exists because there is no alternative but building them in null. Supercap manufacturers aren't very big corps either, by the way. I spent my first few years in null under the wing of supercap manufacturing corps and really it's mostly 3-4 guys with a lot of alts cynoing in researched BPCs and whatnot from their highsec industry POSs to a CSAA located in null, shove inside with some compressed minerals also mined and manufactured in highsec, shove in the oven, wait a few months and start making billions per unit. Subcap manufacturing in null (on a large level) does not exist not because of some sort of anti-industrialist sentiment or refusal to engage in industry like some claim (didn't stop the 0.0 alliance from turning out thousands of supercaps after all), but because subcap manufacturing resources are terrible in null and abundant and free in highsec. Objectively, the value of your industrial work is the cost of the jump fuel it would cost someone to transport the goods you made from highsec instead. That's not some insult, that's just the nature of the current game mechanics I'm afraid.

Balancing nullsec industry capacity so that it's able to support its own ship consumption needs (and adding 'superveld' as said by Mynna), while adjusting highsec so that, while still able to support itself, is not able to manufacture every ship and good used in EVE, subcap manufacturers in 0.0 would be just as necessary as supercap manufacturers for a successful nullsec war machine. Nullsec space would not only be actively occupied and defended (because people would be using the space to mine and build stuff), but small-scale industrialists would be actively defended by PVPers because active local industry would be seen as necessary for the good of the alliance (as opposed to now where's it's seen mostly as a needless liability so long as highsec is a few cynos away). Small-scale PVP would increase as raiders came to attack the population and PVPers defended them. Wars could be fought more conclusively if an alliance could be starved of ships and materials.

As a side question: Did doing away with drone goo affect your raw materials pipelines?

Held up in Y-4 station for most of that, if my memory serves me right.

lol, I was thinking that they just started a massive forum flame war that so distracted the enemy that the "war" got forgotten about.

Pandemic Legion only holds a handful of systems. How did they get their Titans?