Jita Park Speakers Corner

Why?

What do they base that one??


That sounds like a crock of cow patties to me, even if somebody appeared in those why does it need to be more than the in game name, thats still not an answer, its shifting the cop out somewhere else.

Okay even if CCP puts someone on TV how hard is it to only identify that person as CSM [Your Character Name Here]? Further more does anyone actually know CCP Xhagen's name? I mean if CCP Xhagen is working with the CSM and its such a core requirement for the CSM to have their public names outed publicly, why not him? He gets paid by CCP and the CSM's are just volunteers and they have a higher burden by having to put their names out there. I mean really he doesn't have to worry about harassing phone calls because he doesn't have to hang his full name out there.

As far as CCP Xhagen will go. He converses openly with EVE players, self identifies as CCP Xhagen but doesn't go so far as to share his full name. Why? He is using his CCP title which is owned by CCP in his tweeter feed. He publicly makes declaration for anyone to find, albeit only his first name.

If CCP won't share the burden that it asks of its CSM members then that burden should not be placed upon those in the CSM. Clearly if CCP Xhagen felt completely safe and believed in "the police will protect you" argument he would toss his name out there like he tossed himself out their in drag. I will give him props he can rock a bra better than I can, but still the fact remains we have a serious hypocrisy taking place here.

Further more I will call CCP Xhagen's attention back to the legal concern here. If CCP Xhagen is taking precautions here that he won't afford to the volunteers that make up the CSM some lawyer will eat CCP alive in an eventual lawsuit. I get why CCP Xhagen states he wants "behavioral controls" on CSM members but its wrong. The people elect who they think will best represent them and when you actively go out of your way to limit the pool from which the player base can elect people because of candidate intimidation then you are wrong, and you are defeating the purpose of the CSM.

As it stands we have had CSM members stalked, had their pets threatened and CCP has shown a depraved indifference by not being proactive on the matter. No one is asking CCP to anything they don't already do, or for that matter what CCP Xhagen does for himself in shielding his full name. CCP doesn't enable someone harassing a CCP employee because its not that hard to look up someone in the Icelandic phonebook, but CCP will enable a CSM member to be harassed because their full name and nationality can be tossed out there.

The game EVE is based on ethical shades of grey because that's part of theme to the game. Real life is black and white, there is right and wrong. If you're extending protection for some, denying it to others and ignoring harm by making prima facie arguments where do you think that stacks up in the right versus wrong column?

Well I am sure his mom knows, his real life name. And isn't that enough for the most part?

Also your second link doesn't work, only links to this thread. (EDI: ah I used the untested open link option that shows up when I highlighted it, was hoping to do what you reposted. Suppose my skills are rusty.)

Also I am not catching the Boxxy part, it seems like a normal picture of Che Guevara, which a lot of people find popular. And as long as he is using it for a background instead of a T-shirt, shouldn't we all be thankful?

My internet sources came up with his first name as Petur. My guess its icelandic for Peter. Judging from popular Icelandic last names I will go with Petur longmountain, Petur Oceanbreeze or Petur hurfelssensdeightakdhftiagdsonsonsonsonadondft.

Well CCP Xhagen his link does go straight to porno. You are gonna have to work very hard to defeat Scooter McGabe now.

You tried to trick us with your fancy star wars, and hair coloring technology, but boobs are boobs, and no one can defeat them.

Go to bed you're drunk or going a little crazy due to lack of sleep.

I do believe people trying to swat The Mittani was pretty much a perfect example of a common sense justification

For legal reason CCP should have a copy of the passport of a candidate. I don't think that the voters need to know the real name of a person if the candidate doesn't want to.

At the very least this topic needs to be properly discussed again at the next CSM meeting, with someone who knows what they are talking about advocating the anonymity position.

Well do you find it important that Game Industry (Employees is almost too strong of a word) "behave"?

Also if you do agree, what do you know about those very good candidates, that show they would behave well if elected?

I mean it does seem awfully strong to publish a persons real life name. Who knows if anything can ever measure up to how strong that is.

But I don't have anything to compare really, so it would be interesting to see some examples.

But those media organizations or the anchors do like giving their names out, as well as their background and what they did before they joined up.

If anything, those news site, will agree to allow a person to stay anonymous as well on a general bases outside of EVE, to help protect them and such. Of course, none of those people, were ever hired afterwards, to be an anchor on the show and stuff. Usually the people who need to stay anonymous are involved in pretty heavy stuff, and it would be hard for the company to shoulder that burden.

Like lets say a team member of seal team six, has an interview but would be anonymous. Would MSNBC hire him afterwards? Well that member would bring all the drama of a muslim backlash and attacks that MSNBC would have a hard time dealing with.

Of course being a member of team seal six, is a great thing, and they are probably trustworthy as well and most places would think it would be cool to hire one, or see one as an asset.

Of course the seal member will feel bad for not being hired, but most likely a company will feel bad as well for not being able to hire them.

So perhaps CCP does feel bad at least for not allowing cool people in EVE to run, but it might be too much extra drama and burden then the company can really deal with. Of course we will never know if CCP does feel bad, it can't allow certain people to run, because CCP Xhagen doesn't post here anymore, but who knows.