Crime & Punishment

what about bumping freighters out of grid, so they can gank and loot without being attacked by other players?

isn't that an exploit of the new crimewatch?

This looks like a good decision.

Exactly.

Most of our targets for Code Compliance are miners in NPC corps to prevent wardecs.

We do not chase them once they have left the belts we are Role-Playing in. We don't use locator agents to hound them. We just want them to pay our fee, or stop mining in the area we are patrolling. This area will often comprise two or three ice belt systems we are currently monitoring.

Is there a reason why bumping is being singled out here? I was under the impression that you could persistently hunt (kill their ship) people for bounties (either from the UI or informal merc contracts). Spies usually target a corp for a long time period, and I'm pretty sure it's been acceptable to try to re-infiltrate the same corp. If there is a particularly gullible and rich player, scammers will try again and again until the player learns. It seems to me the only thing you can't persistently do after this ruling is bump a specific player who takes the onerous precaution of jumping a couple of systems.




This assumes that bumping is not a risky activity without war decs and that's not true in my experience. I have had my bumping ship suicide ganked, had many bounties placed on me, and received several war decs. There is the social cost of bumping, as it beaks some social relationships while reinforcing others. To paint bumping as a riskless activity that must be infused with "actual" risk by wardeccing seems off the mark. There's plenty of risk doing pretty much anything in EVE that other people strongly dislike.

You may wish to also clarify that this does not include the new player systems. We don't need people bumping the newbro's.

I'm not sure why that would be necessary. The GMs already have a stern blanket policy to cover this; don't screw with people in the rookie systems.

How about bringing mining exhumer and barge HP's down to a sensible level? That way we can forget about this stupid bumping and go back to sucide ganking miners.

Each patch makes this game more like WOW in space but don't worry CCP every step you take away from PVP allows room for another game to fill the void. I hope you are happy when you are left with only high sec bears as they provide zero to the community, fan fest, 3rd party, video content, Dust 315 content. You pandered to the scrubs of eve with the HP buff and it'll catch up with you when the PVP comunity protests at your up coming hauler buff and high sec greif nerf.

CCP this will bite you in the ass real soon, don't even think it's not going to.

I think all of null and low should declare peace for 1 month this summer and declare an unholy war against all of high sec. Huge ganking partys targetting infamous 1+ year pluss npc corp chars, massive market manipulations, Huge PLEX crashes/ Spikes, swamp all hi sec indy slots with 3 month q's.

Says the NPC Corp member.

(Not that i agree with hiding in NPC Corp But....)
Seriously, if you are going to complain about miners avoiding wardecs by being in NPC corps, you could at least man-up and post with your main.

Obviously they are going to patch this.
The patch that actively kicks the miner into a player corp that can be war decced.
Is this patch going to effect all types of NPC corp people? Or just the one you want to war dec?
Would i be able to war dec someone that does missions as well?
If i am wrong here then how can you say its okay to follow people that you are at war with and not the players who cower from player corps?

You can't give us the right to harass players we are at war with but then exclude the thousands of people who avoid wars.

True bots cannot do anything, but neither can a 100mps barge. I got bumped from a gate while trying to make a run for it . Even while trying got bumped 30km from the gate. It was a rather nice bump and the attackers earned a nice kill, but to say that you can always avoid this is utter non-sense.

I don't have a problem with bumping. I have a problem with bumpers used in conjunction with a gank event, them selves not being flagged for assisting the crime. This does not mean flag all bumpers, only the ones who bumped within 10 seconds of a gank being committed against said bumpee. If I can petition for the kill right on said bumper, then that works for me.

Edit: My whole complaint is not being able to take revenge personally on the bumper (who assisted a gank) without being concorded.