Crime & Punishment

I have a question for all those saying that bumping should generate a suspect flag on the bumper.

Let's ignore the jita scenario and focus purely on the belts. So you're being bumped, and the bumper goes suspect. Now what?

If you aggress them with your drones, it creates a limited engagement and they can shoot back. So now that bumper can destroy you AND not get concorded, lose sec or have to wait out a gcc until they can do it again.

Obviously that won't happen (except perhaps for miners who go into a blind rage), so option 2 is you reship to your battleship and come attack. Fine, but I'm willing to bet most miners and their friends won't do that, because they might lose the fight. Besides, you can currently gank. Sure that's got penalties but you can always make a gank alt to mitigate..

So in short, this'll do almost nothing except make jita and amarr wreck central.


Perhaps instead of dreaming up these modules and mechanics that will generally aid the bumper much more than the miner, perhaps use some of the many many tools already available to you. Or.. just pay the 10 mil isk a year and keep an eye on local and then at least the new order won't bother you. I'm sorry to say both of these do require effort and staying at the keyboard.

If you don't wanna do that then I'm afraid you have to take the risks of what might happen. That's EVE. That's how those of us who don't mine have to play. If you don't like it that's perfectly okay (no flippancy there, EVE isn't for everyone and that's fine), there are a million other games out there you can play.

Realistically you couldn't "bump" with spaceships. Doing so would cause massive damage to at least one of the ships. Problem is no one wants to turn Eve into bumper cars. When it comes to aggro mechanics it would be impossible for the server to accurately determine if a bump was intentional. As I said before just remove this failure of a game mechanic.

Doesn't matter if it's intentional or not. Damage occurs when two ships bump eachother. When there's a smaller mass involved with greater, the results are quite predictable.

What we have now, isn't "Flight computers taking evasive actions", since my freighters can't actually perform maneuevers like that normally that it doesnt when a cruiser with 100MN MWD bumps into me.

Equal risk/opportunity. Big fleets, two ships lost due to bumping, nothing wrong with that. It'd level the playing field for everyone.

It has come to my attention that a lot of players complain about being bumped in hi security space and they cant do nothing but move to a different solar system. it is a broken mechanic rule. There should be a way to retaliate with this lowest of scum. There should be some game mechanic that prevents players from hiding in NPC corporations to do their dirty work.

I propose a suspect flag for NPC corp characters that bump. If they are in a player corp, thn business as usual, this way the would be bumpers will have to be subject to retaliation/ wardecs for their actions. At this point the only thing you can do is run to another system and i think that is idiotic. Lets make the miners run all the time. Help us make a stand so we can defend ourselves. Last time i checked the rebalanceing of the gameplay was to make it more war friendly.

Give miners and other hi sec dwelers the ability to retaliate, because as it sits this game mechanic is just BAD.

If you had bumping cause damage that would mean someone would get destroyed by CONCORD in highsec since it would be an aggressive action. That would be a disaster in Jita.

Same thing for suspect flags. You would have people going suspect accidentally.

CCP could just make a module or a rig thats called an "Inertial Gravitational Stabilization Anti-Collision Containment Field" that any ship could fit. (Make Freighters and Jump Freighters have 1 slot that allows this module or just make it a ship specific trait)

That way, players can choose if they want to be harassed and the tin-hat wearing idiots won't have to worry about being reported if they "target the next system but not the player from the previous system whom is feeling harassed now for not paying the self-proclaimed mining tax in addition to the ludicrous 19% VAT for each monthly subscription."

Good god people, give it a break! Its a game mechanic! If you dont like it, dont play!!

Sorry Clara, turns out having one of those doesnt even prevent bumping.

Next time I bump or gank a CODE compliant miner I'll link them your last post.
They can decide how good a deal it was.

You've always had the ability to retaliate.