Market Discussions

Hi, i am new to this market discussions area but im looking for a 5B bond/loan

Currently got 1.6b in sell orders in a nullsec staging system

Have 5B liquid isk myself, as a nullsec pvp'er i need isk to be able to replace or buy ships so i am going to attempt to keep this on the side

Reason for no collateral is i cant offer items of that value that i do not need for pvp

Currently doing some market stuff in nullsec - moving stuff from jita to nullsec to sell on for as much profit as i can (sometimes 20% sometimes 120% it depends)

Looking for more isk to invest into items to bring down and sell as i am finding i am selling out on items very quickly, so i would prefer to bring down large quantity of items to sell in order to cut down on transport costs

Their is usually 200-300 online in the system i am selling in, i am trading in high volume items, as it is nullsec the profit margins are much higher

Offering 8% per month interest

If it all go's pear shaped i will GTC my way out

Can offer API, convo or mail me with offer and request for api if you want it

Please if you have questions ask below or mail/convo me ingame!

Looking forward to working with you!

5B at most

I don't understand...are you loosing 5 bill worth of ships ever other day? If you have the liquid isk why not fund yourself and take a short break from PvP...say what a weekend and do some serious trading, especially if you are seeing 120% returns on "some" of you're items.



Or you could just GTC you're way into 5 bill. Instilling trust would be to buy the GTC's convert them to PLEX and offer them as collateral...then when you are done with the bond you have the money you have made and a bunch of PLEX to sell as you see fit or use to fund you're pew pew.

/2cents
-Sin

Edit: Also 8% interest per month for an uncolateralized bond that will be shipping its product into null is a bit off-setting to investors...are you using Black Frog or something along those lines or hauling it yourself?

no its sov 0.0, so no black frog, im using a alliance jf service, the items im making 120% on are items like hornet ec-300 (High volume, Low amount of isk) and meta items used in pvp, as it is a pvp hub... ! Despite being new to this section of EVE-O, i have heard of Alex Grison from other threads i have seen , you always seem very sceptical of people (probably rightfully so seeing a couple other threads) Regarding having my own 5B, i dont know if you PVP much in nullsec, but its a lot of money, man a fitted battleship costs 500m, also capitals cost a preety penny.

The GTC is only if i really fail, if it doesnt work out, i can simply return your loan and the intrest, the 5B will go towards being able to bring out plenty of modules to keep stock going (as much as i admire the guy who does the JF service for his hard work, it sometimes take 2 or 3 days for items to arrive). If i can bring out more modules it means i wont have days when i am unable to sell anything due to being without stock to sell.

It is 100% your choice whether you would like to give me a loan and whilst the 8% is a little low, i can offer you only my word on the matter of trust!

What happens when your alliance is "deployed" to NPC fountain/ other alliance SOV?

Most of the player owned Null JF pilots i know, are stocking the markets themselves, why would they be hauling profits for line members? gotto remember with alliance run JF's services, they don't do it for free, there is fuel costs.

Interest rate is fine, what i would do is circulate a mail to your alliance, perhaps you will get a better rate(read: saves you money) going "in-house".

good luck, & don't get caught holding the ball.

Hi, thank you for the advice, i have found that the JF pilots are not interested in the Module markets and mainly do contracts of ready made ships, or atleast that is how many do their business in my alliance. The JF service i use is ran for as little profit as it can be ran for, it is used to encourage smaller market seeders whilst still giving some isk for the JF efforts. I was told by a corp member to look here if i needed a loan, so this is where i have ended up!

Edit: sorry didnt read the top, surprisingly enough the Alliance JF is in my own corporation so when we do moves (eg deployment or change of staging system) we get free transport for a few days paid for by the corporation. Many nullsec alliance have a market hub, like jita but in nullsec, so this is where i sell my modules!

Happens all the time Jack. Some investors like filling some of the higher risk bonds, because to be honest most of the game is boring by now.

But beyond that, doesn't nulli have a ship replacement program? Also, looking at your KB, you haven't lost 5b in the last 6 months of PVPing. So even if Nulli's SRP is payed out once a month, as most nullsec alliances do, if you save 1b and invest the other 4b you should be fine. Or am I missing something?

To be honest though, SinTeryx had a good point. Get some plex and try your hand at a collateralized loan. That way you'll have your loan filled at a lower interest rate, and at the end of the loan you can simply use the PLEX to sub your account. If this is the path you wish to choose, feel free to contact me as I'd be happy to help fill it for you at a competitive interest rate.

looking forward to posting in your upcoming Bond thread. what is it gonna be called? something named coffee no doubt to match the gimmick.

@OP i post that, as it quickly weeds out, tire kickers and the like, such as yourself, pre-pledging 20b helps avoid these issues.



great idea, buy some PLEX with that isk you have, then give the plex to this guy, he will then give u less isk for them, while they devalue.

want to know an easier way?

use the 5b you have to make money. if you need to replace a ship, either use the profits, or start ratting like the rest of the bears in null.

Not going to happen.
I'm self-sufficient

I am selling modules from jita to staging system in PVP items related to alliance doctorines, so their is always a supply, somtime i find myself running out and the JF service takes a few days, if i have more isk i can invest into more at one time, this allows me to be making more money more of the time, for example i brought out 300 bouncer I and they were gone within an hour at a 200% markup, this is to supply carriers etc, even the small items make big bucks, so this is why im asking for more! I am not selling ships as the JF service pricing is per m3

EDIT: nullsec, immensea/Detorid, at the moment a staging system in insmother