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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#21 - 2013-01-30 05:45:12 UTC
LordPidey Adtur wrote:
I have to disagree with this. There is no way to rent out PoS research slots through the UI to someone not in your corporation.

Bottom line is, right now, in order for my PoS to research someone else's blueprints, I need to either

1.) Be given the BPO, which means collateral must be paid and whatnot, and use MY skills.
OR
2.) Let them into my corporation and give them roles, which means that he can shoot me in hisec, AND if there are multiple people researching at the same time... they can cancel EVERYONE's job.

Obviously neither of these are ideal. Once it becomes possible to lease my PoS slots without said problems, then I will agree. Until then, it is a poor idea.


Sure there is. Use an Alliance. There's an alliance called New Eden Research that does exactly that.

I definitely support a Hangar-by-Hangar Factory Manager role option.

By the way, using station slots changes none of the issues you raised in your 2).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kimo Khan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-01-30 16:05:36 UTC
Op is trying to trick people into spending money to fill up all the High sec research slots. There was another thread by Zerg Overmind for the same thing.
KATASKOPOS
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-02-13 12:13:48 UTC  |  Edited by: KATASKOPOS
The Op is just pointning that anyone with even a single BPO can keep busy Invention/Copy/PE/ME lines on stations and DISENCOURAGE others to work were the busy lines are....

In step "4. Whenever you need a slot, cancel your unneeded BPO research to start what you do need done."... someone has to read behind the lines that the character in that way prevents even him/her self by using the busy slot and in case the busy slot is needed for real the player needs to queue up the real job also, that will start on the busy slot after the time expires....

Its a very very old trick, beeing used for years now, on how to manipulate the avalability of the above mentioned industrial lines...

From the above it seems that its working as intented more likely and its not an exploit at all. A good suggestion should be, in a case of any job cancelation the character's job slot should remain busy for the whole time and maybe the very BPO/BPC used should remain unavalable as long as the slot itself of the factory on the station.


I supose the mechanic is set, as it is now because it covers the POSes factories too, where the ability to cancel long lasting jobs and unanchor everything in case of emergency, applies.Oterwise anyone with even a single online lab would be a subject of wardec, in the attempt the attackers to hit economicaly by losing BPOs and or BPCs (hint hint Tech II BPOs).
Kimo Khan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-02-14 19:56:19 UTC
KATASKOPOS wrote:
A good suggestion should be, in a case of any job cancelation the character's job slot should remain busy for the whole time and maybe the very BPO/BPC used should remain unavalable as long as the slot itself of the factory on the station.


That is exactly what happens. It even tells you that canceling the job will not return materials (except Blueprint) and will not free up any time.
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#25 - 2013-02-14 20:10:16 UTC
KATASKOPOS wrote:
Oterwise anyone with even a single online lab would be a subject of wardec, in the attempt the attackers to hit economicaly by losing BPOs and or BPCs (hint hint Tech II BPOs).


Anyone who's anyone DOES NOT STORE BPO'S IN THE LAB Roll so in the event of a wardec the BPO stays nice and safe locked down in the station the pos is in.

You might find BPC's in labs which are have just been copied, or even T2 BPC which have just been invented, but as for BPO's then extremely unlikely, and as for T2 BPO's then I would go as far as saying no chance whatsoever of them being found in a lab that you've just shot.

and nice necropost, a couple of weeks old and you dragged it back from the depths.
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