EVE General Discussion

Hrm... I don't know if people will quit the game, but it is a known fact that higher taxes on NPC corps did not result in players joining player run corporation en masse. Players do start their own 1 man corps for missioning and POS stuff, but otherwise they will just drop the corp if they are war dec'd.

Forcing people out of NPC corps will just result in a bunch of one man corps that will result in less player interaction.

Believe it or not communication and interaction happens all the time in NPC corps. There are about 500 people in the NPC corp on this alt for example and I often take time to answer players questions to help them out and even donte money to people that meet certain criteria.

Take that away and people will just be in a one man corp sitting silently in local doing whatever they do to make isk.

I suppose you could say war dec's will force one man players into larger corpoartions.

That doesn't happen now and that won't happen even if you prevent players from disbanding, leaving, and generally forcing them to keep playing with the war dec, they won't undock.

And you basically can't force people to undock.

Also, on a side note, some of the major people who earn massive amounts of isk in hi-sec are station trades who by their very nature do not undock.

Anyways, back to my previous point. You could in theory force everyone out of NPC corps into one man corps and then you could force them to stay in those corps while they are war dec'd but you can't force them to undock.

And if you are playing a game where you can't undock, you get bored and if you get bored you think about canceling your sub.

Now there is no hard scientific proof that people who can't/won't/don't undock will automatically cancel their accounts.

But if I personally played a game where I had to stay docked all day, then I'd probaly quit. And if I quit, stastically other people quit too.

Personally, I'm in FW so when I undock I'll probaly get killed in low sec somewhere, but I'm talking about the people who are in NPC corps for a reason.

There is no good way you can solve this problem by force.

You have to make player run corps and alliances more attractive to players through buffing player run corps. Not by nerfing NPC corps. That is the only way.

example: If your corp has more than 50 players than give like a 5% bonus in mining ore or mission LP yield to everyone in that corp.

I'm talking about the need for CCP to ensure account holder fairness. While "fairness" is not an issue in game (all is fair in love and EVE), EVe as a product should be consistant in how it treats it's players.

Saying to us " make your own destiny" then giving an option to opt out of a very key game mechanic (the ability to be war decced) is not consistent at all. If you are able to affect the game, you should be liable to negative affects as well. Allowing non-noob players to stay forever in a situation where other players must pay a high cost to disrupt them while imposing no real cost on the NPC corp player is uneven.

The mission runner and explorers of NPC corps at least have to pay an elevated tax. But what cost does the miner and hauler pay? NPC corps are not just unfair to everyone else, as currently constituted, they are unfair to their own memebers.

Something has to give, with new taxes and/or restrictions (like a "tax" on mining and hauling or restrictions on what kinds of ships NPC corp pilots can fly ie no tech 2 mining ships and frieghters/orcas for NPC corp members).

Situations that confer signifigant advantages without conferring signifigant costs/trade offs should not be allowed in EVE online.

Where is the problem?

Where is the problem?

The problem is that people have preconceived notions of how this game should be played and that it not be noob or casual friendly, even if they have an entire area of the game to play in and they choose to make it so boring that a good epic fight only happens when someone accidently hits the wrong button.