EVE General Discussion

Cause it would be a horrible looking FPS?

Isn't this what the Hulkageddons wanted to achieve?

If mining paid better, there would be much more fighting over it. Mining should pay 10x what it does now.

because if i had to pay that much attention, i'd be doing something worth more isk/hour. it's honestly that simple.

what?

mining doesn't need any attention, as a game mechanic and an activity it's fine. the only "issues" with mining aren't the mechanics of it. it's the output in minerals with regards to 0.0 grav sites, and the failure of a ship rebalance that CCP seem fine with (even though the situation is the same now as the situation they tried to remove with the rebalance).

Consider this.

What if belts and the re spawn rates of those belts remained just as it is today, except that you can purchase mining rights (in high sec) that allow you to not only use those belts exclusively but to defend them against would be claim jumpers?

To maintain your mining rights you would need to pay a fee to the local empire, and would need to maintain a certain minimum level of mining activity in those belts. If your mining activity drops below that threshold, you lose your exclusive rights to that belt.

If someone comes in and begins mining in your belt, you have the option to open fire on the claim jumper and his corp without the need for a formal declaration of war for the remainder of that day to protect your claim. Of course, once fired upon that pilot can return fire. Advantage goes to the defending corp as they can pick and choose whom to open fire upon, although during the time period of the ensuing limited engagement the claim jumper can of course choose to reship just as they can now.

Now if I see a belt that I want to work that is already claimed I have all of the options currently available to me, including suicide ganking and war declaration, to use to drive productivity down in that belt to the point where I can claim it for my own. Of course, I now have to maintain the minimum level of output to hold my claim (and pay the appropriate fee).

Options would be opened up on both sides of the coin, with a minimum of fiddling around with current game mechanics.

Obviously the details would have to be examined and balanced.

I have always thought it odd that valuable resources could not be legally claimed, fought over, and defended even in high sec. The problem as been that there was no advantage or game mechanic in place to do so. Why form a large mining corp (with some level of self defense capability) when there is little to gain (other than some productivity gains) from working together as opposed to every miner for himself (and an alt or two).

I think we could and should consider allowing claims to be filed on resources such as asteroid belts and let people have another point of contention.

Make it profitable to work together to "own" a resource, and people will work together to do it.

how "fun" something is, isn't part of the definition of what an activity is.

activity would effectively kill mining, not the reverse.
clearly, you do not mine because you've expressed that you find it boring and you make dumb suggestions.

That would require miners to be at their keyboards and fit for combat. Two things that wont happen in EvE.

actually, we'd just stop mining because if we have to be at the keyboard we'd be doing other activities that weren't such poor isk/hour.

people accept the current isk/hour because you can do it while doing other things, it's an acceptable tradeoff. increasing the attention needed to mine without increasing it's isk/hour will just make people do more profitable things for the same attention requirement.

no, you can't just magically make mining a higher isk/hour activity because the market is player driven.

Follow this thought through; but think of things that exist in EVE outside of mining. You're changing a fundamental tenet of the EVE economy and it doesn't seem as if you've considered what that may do to the rest of the game.