Jita Park Speakers Corner

After living in wh space for several years and hearing countless nullsec people comment on wh space I thought it time for some one from wh space to run to help improve null sec.

My platform and suggestions to help improve nullsec.

Harder site but worth more isk, loads of nullsec alliances seem to be moving in to wh space so seems they want sites like wh space has.

Sites would be worth more in nullsec, you'd need properly fit carriers, dreads and a small gang of people not just 1 ratting carrier, the bs in these new sites would also nuet loads point and do way more dps than what your used to at the moment, but they would be worth more isk.

Officer spawns just seem to simple. lets help industry by changing the way these are made.

I'd like to get rid of officer spawns, you'd have new sites called "officers hide aways" these would be like your new improved combat sites but would do even more damage you'd still need 8 or more people to do them either with multiple logi or triage carriers. Once you have killed all the officers guards you could loot his hide away (needing a high skill in archeology) this still woudln't give officer mods just plans to use these you'd probably need a dedicated 30 million science character to invent something out of it, You'd also need to find some random gas and crap and harvest this as well react said gas to polymers make some parts from the salvage and then combine it all with your invented copy and walla you have your officer mod.

No more bounties yes concord are happy you kill these pesky pirates but they want to see proof.

I'd like to remove bounties but don't worry the sites would be worth more isk you'd just have to take your tags to concord in hisec and turn them in for your lovely improved isk, This would also help hisec wardecs.

Nullsec just isn't safe enough at the moment.

I'd push for local being removed this would be to make it safer for you while your in sites so others coming in don't know exactly how many there are of you in the system.

Sov grinding no one like it, it sucks!!!!

To improve this stations would get just 1 reinforce timer but you could alter this with stront up to a max of 41 hours. As people in null are not wanting to grind stations I'd improve this sov war mechanics and just say hey if your station is killed after the reinforce timer all your **** is gone everything. This would not only speed up sov wars but make future ones even quicker, assuming you haven't rebuild the outposts.

Blobs yeah ok everyone hates these as well.

Gates would have a set mass limit per hour about 3billion for 1 hour is what i think is reasonable (30 bs's one way).

Titans and super carriers, if you don't like the blobs you sure as hell don't like blobs of super caps.

I'd push for the distance between systems be increased by a gazillion light years, This would stop caps from jumping about but still make them viable for system defence where they are built. While this might seem a bit harsh i would also push for normal carriers and dreads to use gates (there mass would still count towards the hourly limit mind).

To make fights more interesting lets add effects. Wormhole people love them, seleene designed them you'll love them.

I'd push for systems in nullsec to get different effects, this would help change fleets in nulllsec as you tailor your fleet to the system effect, I mean who doesnt want magnatars in null (obligitary,magnatars, how do they work comment) I'd make this effect random and would change daily after down time so you would have to scout ahead of time to check what effect it was before sending a fleet in, Que benny hill music when your armour fleet jumps in to a pulsar system on the way to your destination.

New gas sites.

With officer mods needing to be made we'd put random gas clouds in to null space that can be cleared and sucked, This would help promote industry in nullsec.

Balancing the account.

With the introduction of new gas sites in nullsec i feel it would only be fair to remove something. That something is ICE, yep we'd remove it from all of nullsec, it would be in hisec and lowsec only. This would hopefully make ice mining in hisec worth more and encourage way more suiciders on them. I'd push for lowsec ice to be way way better than hisec to help encourage people there, yes i know i am running for a nullsec spot but hey spread the love, and by god does lowsec need some.

I think everyone in nullsec would agree these would be a vast improvement on the current system.

Vote for me, Corbexx. To bring a better nullsec to life.

Lol

It sounds like your plan is to basically turn 0.0 into W-space with stations. Wouldn't it be easier to just make the case for stations in W-space if that's what you want?

Destroyable outposts are something you have to be very careful with. Do you also want the notional "small group" to be able to have a chance in nullsec? If so, they're a bad thing - they'd be a mechanism that might prompt a larger neighbor to beat up the smaller simply to destroy their station(s), when they might have otherwise ignored them.

Of course, your solution prevents that with arbitrary restrictions on movement. Unfortunately, they and the rest of your suggestions clash with the "theme" of nullsec: empire building. Any fixes need to keep that theme in mind while doing the "sorting" that you say (correctly) that nullsec needs. The fact that w-space is supposedly the "least broken" is no excuse to simply throw out nullsec mechanics and replace them with w-space - the two regions are supposed to be distinct, eliminating that distinctiveness is a poor approach.

Claiming that removing local would make you safer though... heh. You're cheeky, I'll give you that.

Wasn't planning to edit. Overall point of the post - nullsec is about empire building - remains valid, even if the OP and his replies are, as you told me, a joke.


ps, sorry to spoil the joke.

I believe Mynnna is trying to state - and I would agree - that W-space and Sov 0.0 are two different types of space that support two different types of playstyle. Sov 0.0 is "broken" for small allianes in the same sense that W-space is "broken" for large alliances; that is to say: unsuitable.

Trying to turn sov 0.0 into a poor copy of W-space might seem like a good idea to people who like the W-space lifestyle, but what does it leave for people who want to be part of a mighty space empire? In short, CCP have explicitly designed a vast area of space specifically to support the small corp/alliance lifestyle, and that space is W-space.

So the answer to your question is that small corps and alliances who want to stake out a little patch of vacuum to call their own should look to W-space, not sov 0.0. Sov space is for those who want to be involved in the 'Great Game' of powerbloc politics. NPC 0.0 has a different role (actually several roles), but still distinct from W-space.

Rather than seeking to make one into a poor copy of another, I believe that we should ask CCP to recognise and enhance the different playstyles that these different species of space support. And put some thought into creating new types of space that support new in game lifestyles.

Ignoring the trolling and talking the serious here. It should go like this. Instead of shooting stations into oblivion, which makes no sense, it should work with sov. IE you kill the sov, the station becomes neutral until a new TCU is put up. This would get rid of one of the structure grinds necessary with sov.

Next shooting outposts... kills them. Then the game takes all of the loot that is in the station, destroys 50 percent of it, and the rest would be inside of the indestructable station husk that stays there for 24 hours. This way you now have actual risk and reward for killing stations.

Stations should also be able to be shot without any kind of SBU. The normal reinforcement timers would still be there, but the ever so fun ninja station gank would become viable.

I think it highlights issues when you say if your a small alliance you dont belong in nullsec go to wh space, Now this isn't ment at a dig at you or your alliance but. didn't you take a load of space just after atlas's fall and then not manage to keep hold of it, The fact that the only reason you have space now is it was gifted you by test and that without there backing (or more the point of the hbc's backing) you probably wouldn't have it. The fact that your a fair sized allaince (and have your merc's and associates) with a decent name and i guess a sizeable super cap fleet. The only way you could get space was to join hbc to get it, what chance to smaller groups have.



Well i guess you agree with atleast 1 of my idea's

I do find it interesting that you do have slightly different views on null with mynnna being more happy to change mechanics to allow smaller groups to compete, while malcanis wants to keep it how it is for empire builders.

I still do believe one way or another local has to go it's just being used for something its not ment to be.... Intel, What about a comprimise of a small sov upgrade that gives a delayed local of a couple mins but could easily be incapped by a smallish gang (10 players maybe more)

http://themittani.com/features/local-problem-tale-two-solutions

I like Rhavas' approach to local.

That all sounds like a lot of effort, what if CCP just seeded some wormhole stabilizer BPOs instead and we all moved in?
Side bonus: wormhole space would actually have pvp.