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Star Wars Episode VII (Confirmed) - Now with Lens Flares !!

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Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-01-25 22:29:39 UTC
irishFour wrote:
Wheres Neill Blomkamp in any high profile discussion. How is that guy not in more big budget movies, I dont know, I think his darker, but more real take on things would have been an awesome way to do next starwars

Just say no to shaky cam. Say no to handhelds. Also, no to prawn-spew in my Star Wars.

I'd love to see Neill Blomkamp do, say, Mechwarrior or Macross movies. But not Star Wars. If anything, J.J. Abrams "Star Trek" was the most Star Wars-like movie out there in years, including any of Lucas' horrifying turds (I - III).

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.
Hedian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-01-25 23:27:24 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Just read this on reddit several minutes before.
I like JJ Abrams, I have no problem with this.
But still...the rumor about Zack Snyder doing it...oh, boy- Zack Snyder would have been über-awesome.

edit: for those who don't know or don't care: Zack Snyder is the one who made Dawn of the Dead (Remake), 300, Watchmen and Suckerpunch.



300 is one of the worst film i have ever seen. ******* hate that piece of garbage.


Watchmen was just boring and had a silly ending. The blue guy acting as a major threat would perhaps make the world unite, but that guy would have to attack us quite frequently to make the unifiqation hold...

Dawn of the dead. Zombie baby. come on....


haven't seen suckerpunch.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#23 - 2013-01-25 23:42:40 UTC
How about Guillermo del Toro.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#24 - 2013-01-26 00:18:25 UTC
Hedian wrote:


Watchmen was just boring and had a silly ending. The blue guy acting as a major threat would perhaps make the world unite, but that guy would have to attack us quite frequently to make the unifiqation hold...



Blame the Watchmen book itself and not the movie. It was quite faithful.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Hedian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-01-26 00:46:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Hedian wrote:


Watchmen was just boring and had a silly ending. The blue guy acting as a major threat would perhaps make the world unite, but that guy would have to attack us quite frequently to make the unifiqation hold...



Blame the Watchmen book itself and not the movie. It was quite faithful.



Hmm. That might have been the case with 300 as well. Doesn't make the movies any better though.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#26 - 2013-01-26 01:17:57 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
AlleyKat wrote:
The main character, or rather, the character which is central to the story; is Sweetpea, not Baby Doll.

There is another level you have forgotten about: the actual film opens showing the pulling back of a curtain on a theater stage, which is Zack saying 'This is something I am putting on a stage for all to see: the exploitation and personification of women, by men, in cinema and mainstream media. And the way I am going to get you to watch it is by luring you into it by using idolised and fetishistic trademarks which men place on women'.

The Sucker Punch is on the male audiences face.

Next time you watch a scantily-clad bleach-blonde wearing a school-girl outfit, and has make-up to make her cheeks extra rosy - and the 'girl' has an action slo-mo shot of her, birds eye, that in one movement looks down her top and then (as she performs a backflip) shows her underwear with legs spread - you gotta ask yourself the question "Is the director calling me a male chauvinist pig for paying for a ticket?".


The film was sold on me on one image alone...

Giant robot samurai wielding a minigun fighting a lady wearing a sailors outfit who's wielding a katana.

I mean, come on. How is that not beyond awesome as an image.


What ^^ said...

Ignoring the context for a second, I was pretty bored after that scene because I realised the truth and additionally realised there would not be any consequences for any of the action scenes in the film.

Inception had rules; your brain can turn to mush if you drop into limbo, and the main character would go to prison for the murder of his wife if the inception attempt failed.

The matrix had rules; if you are killed in the matrix - you die in RL, because "the body cannot live without the mind". Simple.

Consequence.

Suckerpunch: a 50 foot tall robotic samurai can slam you into a wall at 1000 miles an hour and you are not injured.

No consequence.

This is why the film is what I believe it is, because Zack is a smart guy and just exploited the male psyche, gave a finger to Hollywood and lured males into a cinema.... And got away with it, Scott free.

Man of steel will be awesome but I think Star Wars is beyond his capability. Honestly.

AK

This space for rent.
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-01-26 07:57:57 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
AlleyKat wrote:
The main character, or rather, the character which is central to the story; is Sweetpea, not Baby Doll.

There is another level you have forgotten about: the actual film opens showing the pulling back of a curtain on a theater stage, which is Zack saying 'This is something I am putting on a stage for all to see: the exploitation and personification of women, by men, in cinema and mainstream media. And the way I am going to get you to watch it is by luring you into it by using idolised and fetishistic trademarks which men place on women'.

The Sucker Punch is on the male audiences face.

Next time you watch a scantily-clad bleach-blonde wearing a school-girl outfit, and has make-up to make her cheeks extra rosy - and the 'girl' has an action slo-mo shot of her, birds eye, that in one movement looks down her top and then (as she performs a backflip) shows her underwear with legs spread - you gotta ask yourself the question "Is the director calling me a male chauvinist pig for paying for a ticket?".


The film was sold on me on one image alone...

Giant robot samurai wielding a minigun fighting a lady wearing a sailors outfit who's wielding a katana.

I mean, come on. How is that not beyond awesome as an image.


What ^^ said...

Ignoring the context for a second, I was pretty bored after that scene because I realised the truth and additionally realised there would not be any consequences for any of the action scenes in the film.

Inception had rules; your brain can turn to mush if you drop into limbo, and the main character would go to prison for the murder of his wife if the inception attempt failed.

The matrix had rules; if you are killed in the matrix - you die in RL, because "the body cannot live without the mind". Simple.

Consequence.

Suckerpunch: a 50 foot tall robotic samurai can slam you into a wall at 1000 miles an hour and you are not injured.

No consequence.

This is why the film is what I believe it is, because Zack is a smart guy and just exploited the male psyche, gave a finger to Hollywood and lured males into a cinema.... And got away with it, Scott free.

Man of steel will be awesome but I think Star Wars is beyond his capability. Honestly.

AK

That's kind of the point. The audience is the sucker that gets punched.

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#28 - 2013-01-26 08:33:48 UTC
Here's a thought...

JJ changed the opening titles for Star Trek, will he change the opening titles for Star Wars? No more rolling crawl?

That rolling crawl was just a throwback to flash gordon episodes, and it's no longer George's choice...so, would he? could he? should he?

If he does, I hope he uses the same guy who did the credits for Star Trek. They were pretty, and pretty badass.

I think his name was Andrew Kramer...

AK

This space for rent.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-01-26 09:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
How about Guillermo del Toro.


Love this guy.
The Devil's Backbone is one of my all time favourite movies.
But I don't think his style would be fitting for Star Wars. But should there ever be "Farscape-The Movie", then del Toro would be the man.

@ AK: Interesting point about that "no consequences" thing in SP. Of course those scenes were comic- like hyperboles, but they did have consequences- after all they were distorted reflections of fantasy world #1 in fantasy world #2. When Rocket dies in the train scene, she also dies in the brothel reality.
And talking of consequences, only rarely have movies their heroine so completely and utterly destroyed in the end as in Sucker Punch.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2013-01-26 12:53:19 UTC
Confirmed by Disney in Press Release Friday night:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/60553

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2013-01-26 12:55:38 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:


JJ changed the opening titles for Star Trek,
AK


Huh ? All the Star Trek movies have a standard opening credit sequence. The latest one just had a Title Card admittedly but what do you mean that he changed them ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#32 - 2013-01-26 14:46:04 UTC
Ehr...meh...gehrd... D:<
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#33 - 2013-01-26 17:20:41 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Huh ? All the Star Trek movies have a standard opening credit sequence. The latest one just had a Title Card admittedly but what do you mean that he changed them ?


Well, they didn't use Star Trek music for one and yes, it was just a titlecard which is another style change from having all of the credits up front. Additionally, they had the opening sequence and then the titlecard, and then a scene change to Iowa.

I guess that might be the point; do you change the established structure?

If I were to apply a JJ Star Trek opening structure change to Star Wars, it would open immediately with no music and an action sequence probably with a Jedi lightsaber battle, and then cut to a big imposing slow moving CG of the words STAR WARS (traditional font - with lens flares) with some non-star wars music, and then hard-cut to Coruscant - hopefully with a torture scene of Jar-Jar.

So, my question is: would this be a bad thing, and should we embrace a new opening sequence/structure/style, or moan they didn't 'keep it real' and stick to the established/old-fashioned opening sequence and style?

AK

This space for rent.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-01-26 17:26:18 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Huh ? All the Star Trek movies have a standard opening credit sequence. The latest one just had a Title Card admittedly but what do you mean that he changed them ?


Well, they didn't use Star Trek music for one and yes, it was just a titlecard which is another style change from having all of the credits up front. Additionally, they had the opening sequence and then the titlecard, and then a scene change to Iowa.

I guess that might be the point; do you change the established structure?

If I were to apply a JJ Star Trek opening structure change to Star Wars, it would open immediately with no music and an action sequence probably with a Jedi lightsaber battle, and then cut to a big imposing slow moving CG of the words STAR WARS (traditional font - with lens flares) with some non-star wars music, and then hard-cut to Coruscant - hopefully with a torture scene of Jar-Jar.

So, my question is: would this be a bad thing, and should we embrace a new opening sequence/structure/style, or moan they didn't 'keep it real' and stick to the established/old-fashioned opening sequence and style?

AK



I was only reading to "torture scene of Jar-jar" and decided that I was going to agree with everything you say.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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