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Salute to Freedom Extension and Electus Matari
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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-01-24 19:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
A belated salute to Electus Matari and Freedom Extension on their rescue and liberation of 1.325 million slaves. Congratulations on a successful operation within Ammatar space, and congratulations on giving over one million individuals their freedom. I hope there is a well-organized resettlement program in place for them. I suspect they will need a good deal of support for some time, as they adjust to their new homes and adapt to earning a livelihood as a freeperson. Slave Repatriation Convoy Breaches Ammatar Border
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-01-24 19:17:34 UTC
Border security just isn't what it used to be!

Why, it's almost as if The Mandate and the Imperials are distracted by something militarily and border integrity is suffering as a result!

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2013-01-24 19:54:06 UTC
You'd be wiser to remind them that the expiry date on packaged food is only a suggestion and that they should never drink anything that hasn't been boiled beforehand.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-01-25 00:39:14 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You'd be wiser to remind them that the expiry date on packaged food is only a suggestion and that they should never drink anything that hasn't been boiled beforehand.


They're in the Republic now...they'll get food only if they're lucky. On the happy side of the equation, it won't be laced with Vitoc. Otherwise, however, your advice is timely.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-01-25 00:53:12 UTC
We already have a very lenghty discussion on this subject however Republic forces can not be congratulated enough.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#6 - 2013-01-25 01:03:26 UTC
At least we actually have an official statement linked in this discussion from a credible news source, and it appears to hardly be what we were led to believe in the last thread. I imagine traffic coming to and from the Ammatar Mandate and the Minmatar Republic will be hampered do to new restrictions aimed at preventing another 'civilian' convoy from breaching sovereign Ammatar space. Can anyone from Electus Matari or Freedom Extension provide a statement in which these slaves were apprehended and freed?

Despite the lengthy discussion in the last thread, we weren't really provided any details on the exchange. I would like to know, if possible, the means of obtaining these slaves and what their fates will be. Questions that went unanswered in my previous inquiries.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-01-25 12:48:58 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
At least we actually have an official statement linked in this discussion from a credible news source, and it appears to hardly be what we were led to believe in the last thread. I imagine traffic coming to and from the Ammatar Mandate and the Minmatar Republic will be hampered do to new restrictions aimed at preventing another 'civilian' convoy from breaching sovereign Ammatar space. Can anyone from Electus Matari or Freedom Extension provide a statement in which these slaves were apprehended and freed?

Despite the lengthy discussion in the last thread, we weren't really provided any details on the exchange. I would like to know, if possible, the means of obtaining these slaves and what their fates will be. Questions that went unanswered in my previous inquiries.


I think that we can draw a few conclusions from their unwillingness to answer.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#8 - 2013-01-25 12:56:26 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Simon Louvaki wrote:
At least we actually have an official statement linked in this discussion from a credible news source, and it appears to hardly be what we were led to believe in the last thread. I imagine traffic coming to and from the Ammatar Mandate and the Minmatar Republic will be hampered do to new restrictions aimed at preventing another 'civilian' convoy from breaching sovereign Ammatar space. Can anyone from Electus Matari or Freedom Extension provide a statement in which these slaves were apprehended and freed?

Despite the lengthy discussion in the last thread, we weren't really provided any details on the exchange. I would like to know, if possible, the means of obtaining these slaves and what their fates will be. Questions that went unanswered in my previous inquiries.


I think that we can draw a few conclusions from their unwillingness to answer.


Besides the (by now) well known fact that EM is about as loquacious as your average brick, any conclusions would remain wild speculations until more verified news come along.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-25 12:57:13 UTC
Really?

I know that the Intergalactic Summit isn't known for being exactly, how do you say, civil, but must we really openly praise kidnappers?

A curse on you, how dare you. Giving over a million slaves their freedom? I spit, the meaning of the word is lost on you.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Maire Gheren
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-01-25 13:50:23 UTC
Yes, how were they acquired?
By purchase? By capture? Where is the chain of ownership?
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#11 - 2013-01-25 13:55:18 UTC
Maire Gheren wrote:
Yes, how were they acquired?
By purchase? By capture? Where is the chain of ownership?


Broken. As such things should be.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Maire Gheren
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-01-25 15:51:11 UTC
I can't imagine why. My ancestors had clean chains of ownership, with the last link being themself.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#13 - 2013-01-25 16:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Simon Louvaki
Halete wrote:
Really?

I know that the Intergalactic Summit isn't known for being exactly, how do you say, civil, but must we really openly praise kidnappers?

A curse on you, how dare you. Giving over a million slaves their freedom? I spit, the meaning of the word is lost on you.


I'm not so sure the man who is transplanted into a society he knows nothing about and can no longer feed his family because he has no valued skills outside farming would be so smug about getting his freedom at the cost of his home and livelyhood.

Rodj Blake wrote:

I think that we can draw a few conclusions from their unwillingness to answer.


Indeed, I could. I would however like to give them the chance to clarify rather than me make false assumptions.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#14 - 2013-01-25 19:25:55 UTC
This is to confirm that Electus Matari escorted a freighter convoy of liberated slaves across the Ammatar-Minmatar border on the date specified by the news item in question.

Individuals on board were participants of Gradient's freedom program, now eight years in operation. As has always been and remains our policy, we give no further information on their origin, method of contacting us, or future plans. We do not transport individuals against their will. We provide accommodation, upkeep, and assistance in repatriation, education, and re-establishing contact with kin in freedom at their destination inside the Minmatar Republic.

I am not at liberty to discuss further details of this specific operation.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
CEO
Gradient
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-01-25 20:10:51 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:

I'm not so sure the man who is transplanted into a society he knows nothing about and can no longer feed his family because he has no valued skills outside farming would be so smug about getting his freedom at the cost of his home and livelyhood.


You play with your words as if you seek to contradict me, but no, I fear we are facing a misunderstanding for my words were for the original poster. Hence, I attack his celebration of the 'freeing' of slaves. Such utter regressionist tripe.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#16 - 2013-01-25 20:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Simon Louvaki
My apologies Mrs. Halete for the misunderstanding, It does appear I misunderstood your intent.

Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
This is to confirm that Electus Matari escorted a freighter convoy of liberated slaves across the Ammatar-Minmatar border on the date specified by the news item in question.

Individuals on board were participants of Gradient's freedom program, now eight years in operation. As has always been and remains our policy, we give no further information on their origin, method of contacting us, or future plans. We do not transport individuals against their will. We provide accommodation, upkeep, and assistance in repatriation, education, and re-establishing contact with kin in freedom at their destination inside the Minmatar Republic.

I am not at liberty to discuss further details of this specific operation.

Elsebeth Rhiannon
CEO
Gradient


Thank you Mrs. Rhiannon for the response. You answered my question.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Sabre de Orlenard
Channel 47
#17 - 2013-01-25 20:44:58 UTC
I suppose you can assure us these men and women will be fed and propperly reintroduced to society. Freeing them from a bunch of creeps is just step one, giving them a place they can call home comes next.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#18 - 2013-01-25 20:46:21 UTC
I'm reasonably certain that Electus Matari knows how to handle themselves.
von Khan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-01-25 20:54:55 UTC  |  Edited by: von Khan
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von Khan
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2013-01-25 21:14:58 UTC
All of this looks a lot like the usual capsuleer transfers of slaves in the authorized parts of the cluster.

However, Freedom Extension were probably contacted to obtain proper clearance from Republic Customs to move illegal "goods" (slaves) in their sovereign space. Am I correct ?

Thus, my question, is, again, if these Freedom Extension freighters were capsuleer vessels or regular ones.
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