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CCP: New players should have guidance

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Doomheim
#61 - 2013-01-25 19:06:23 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Rambunctious wrote:
Hello all.SNIP

Cliffs:

-CCP should include a mentor program after the tutorial

-mentor program includes pvp, wormholes, missions, ratting, 0.0, trading, hauling, piracy, etc etc etc.

-all players can utilize the mentors and go back to them if they are interested in something else

-showing something what they've read about is alot better than reading it and doing it solo and not realizing what the hell is going on.


Thank you for your time.

Thoughts?


And yet over the course of the last 10 years hundreds of thousands of actual human beings have figured out exactly how to do that which you can not figure out on your own. What does this tell you?

It tells me the problem is the "individual" and not the "environment".

CCP keeps talking about (paraphrasing) "trying to lower the barriers while not taking away from the "complex/hard core" nature of the game ie easy to learn-hard to master".
I personally think it's a fool's errand. EVE the product is like any real life community, you can keep it small and thus nice/efficient but not meeting it's "full potential", or you can "lower the barriers, open it up" to more people (more subscriptions and such) and turn it into a lowest-common denominator Ghetto.

Suburban towns in the United States have learned this lesson: They changed their zoning codes to allow the building of "for rent" apartment complexes ("lower barrier to entry" than true home ownerships) and expanded public transport in hopes of gaining boons from increased tax revenue because more people would be living in the city limits and thus subject to city taxes....only to find out that they ended up spending all the new tax revenue AND MORE on public safety expenses because the kind of people who live in the easier to afford housing require much more attention from police and fire/rescue services (which are super expensive).

Make EVE easier to get into and you let in all these fair weather MMO players who destroy MOST other MMOs, the whining, crying , gimmie gimmie/cater to me types who don't have the attention spans required to play EVE in the 1st place.

Say no to the Ghettoization of EVE.



Or perhaps we should start saying no to elitist hypocrites, who honestly think they are better than everyone else.....Lol

"Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that “one day Veritas will come up to me and say ‘hey I fixed off-grid boosting’”, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle."

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-01-25 19:41:15 UTC
Rambunctious wrote:
I think Brooks might be the only one who gets what i'm trying to say. I am NOT trying to make this a themepark or take away from the sandbox. I'm simply putting steps on the sandbox which children can either use or decide not to use. All i'm saying is people are looking for mentors and can't find any because it's such a big universe with many people being very abrassive to the newer players. Let people who want to help have an easier way to help.


You know I have an idea...

Why doesn't CCP create a mentor program that if you officially become a mentor of a new player and they sub for two months that you get a free month.

Even if they quit after the second month, CCP is still up a month in subs.

I'm not sure how they would go about this program, but it would be useful incentive for old veterns to help new players.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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