EVE General Discussion

EDIT: CCP FOZZIE is addressing some questions here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197430&find=unread

It will probably be more productive to post there.




Requiring boosters be on grid is one of the most player upvoted proposals on the csm's assembly hall.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10444

Yet it seems it didn't get much attention from the csm meeting:

"Seleene brought up the topic of off-grid boosting, and Fozzie responded that technical limitations were the only reason it continued to exist. Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that “one day Veritas will come up to me and say ‘hey I fixed off-grid boosting’”, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle."

And that seems all that was said about it. (If this was then addressed somewhere else in the minutes please feel free to let me know.)
http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_December_2012.pdf

"Technical limitations" so getting this fixed is like hoping on a miracle??

Is Veritas actually assigned to fix this, or is this something he may, or may not do, in his spare time?

Can we get some sort of description of the technical limitation?

Can the technical limitation be avoided by doing something other than requiring them to be on grid say only give boosts up to fleet members in an area of effect?

Some sort of follow up would be appreciated.

CCP have already stated on several occasions that OGB is going away - they dislike the mechanic. Also, the tech 3 cruisers are going to stop being the over powered boost machines they are now when the revamp of command ships goes through this year. So whether you agree with the idea or don't, it's happening.

Period.

Past revisions over the last four years that I've been playing would seem to indicate that expecting this kind of reciprocity for the Solo/SG player is akin to expecting the second coming of Christ. You can hope for it all you like, but don't hold your breath.

Aren't T3 cruisers currently only good for 'solo' flying when you happen to own an OGB or two?

Boosts are killing solo pvp. If you are using a booster alt you are not solo anymore than if you use a logistics alt or a falcon alt. (at least those need to be on grid.)

EVE is becoming ALTSONLINE.

Face it, as OGBs proliferate eve gets worse.

I have command ships trained to V.

I support the change to nerfing OGB. This however MUST lead to two options:

1) A significant increase in the durability of Boosting ships
(not likely going to happen as it creates imbalance elsewhere)

2) A tenfold increase in the effectiveness of boosts while I remain on-grid, going back to EVE's famous trailers this would support a style of gameplay demonstrated, When a command ship enters the field the enemy FC screams "KILL THAT COMMAND SHIP" and while the command pilot realizes he is doomed he remains steadfast for every second he stays on the field he holds significant sway over the flow of conflict. You will be primaried... but your time on the battlefield will be legend.

Also in order to make option 2 an actual power-play he must be unable to receive reps while boosting, he can still run and self-rep but if this caveat is not added we will have 8 Archons repping a damnation =P

Exactly this.

At the moment you very rarely see "Fkin blobbers" or anything like that in local (You do, but theyre just scrubs).

EVE is supposed to be fun, unfortunately now, people are so risk averse that they only fight in huge numbers, OGB allow you to do things like this:
http://cyn0.syn-dot.com/index.php/kill_related/12833/ (Please allow the KB link it's to prove a point).

Without the tengu boost, we would've ALL died, and without the loki we couldn't of caught anything. Tell me how that is going to IMPROVE this game? So now blobs can dominate you with a push of a button? At this moment, blobs have to think about what they're going to do tactically, and not underestimate their opponent, after the OGB nerf, its instadeath

They already plague low sec so much, I would have no idea which are yours. Pretty much you would be fool to pvp in low sec without your booster alt.

If OGB goes away, shouldn't fleet bonuses also only apply when being on grid and not just in the same system? Surely the knowledge from a skill cannot have longer range than an active module?

/c

Eve became altsonline years ago matey. I know one person in Eve who has a single account, everyone else has at least two accounts.

I don't believe its technically possible for CCP to prevent OGB. Prevent boosting from a POS yes, but not applying the boosts to one grid in a system.

I think the changes to boosts will help a little but the bottom line is T3s are still overpowered as they require max skills to probe down. I think that'll have to be the next change - increase their sig radius when they're pushing boosts - to ensure that the T3 pilot is actually at the keyboard.

I'm not holding my breath, frankly CCP take a ridiculous amount of time to deal with problems like this and always have.