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NAGLFAR FIX PLEASE!
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Sanfords Son
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-01-24 05:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Sanfords Son
So, I'M SURE this has been brought up in the past. But I'd love a CCP response.

WHY DOES THE NAG NOT HAVE 3 GUN SLOTS LIKE THE REST OF THE DREADS HUH!

Now that my semi butt hurt rage is outta the way.


I get the whole, matar feel of multi weapon systems. I'm happy CCP has that outlook as it mixes the game up, But WHY oh WHY does the Nag fall into this catagorey? It's such a GREAT LOOKING DREAD, And would be bloody AMAZING if it had 3 turret hardpoints, and one extra high for the siege module.

I get that it makes it "different" from the other dreads, But lets be real, For the stupid/fun stuff IE - BLAP dreads, Citadal Missiles are a laughable idea. But projectiles? projectiles could be amazing if we only had 3 hardpoints.


CCP - I know that you've been asked this before, But please PLEASE, I'll trade you my first born child to give the nag, 4 highslots, 3 turret hardpoints, and 1 extra for siege module, PLEASE!


sincerly, that butt hurtt guy

EDIT - While we're at it, Lets fix Citadel Torps?
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#2 - 2013-01-24 05:15:44 UTC
Fozzie said he doesn't like the split weapon system and the Nag will be getting changed.

Just better hope he doesn't turn it into a missile dread haha
Sanfords Son
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-01-24 05:16:43 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Fozzie said he doesn't like the split weapon system and the Nag will be getting changed.

Just better hope he doesn't turn it into a missile dread haha



DON'T **** WITH ME LIKE THAT!

And I did not know that, I'm so excited now.
Luxotor
This Cyno Will Eventually Make Sense
#4 - 2013-01-24 05:54:11 UTC
I, too, am deeply excited for the Naglfar change. Really enjoy flying that ship.

THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS!
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#5 - 2013-01-24 05:59:14 UTC
Hey, at least you get a half passable blap dread. The Caldari gets a turd of a structure basher that doesn't do that any/much better than any other race. Except maybe Minmatar.

Regardless though, it'll nice to see this mixed weapon doctrine go the way of the Dodo and get the ships fixed up right.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2013-01-24 06:42:16 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.

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1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#7 - 2013-01-24 06:54:55 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.

It also has to mount 2 unbonused launchers (and citadel launchers are bad, mmkay?) that won't get damage mods affecting them unless you want to eat up all your lows with mixed damage mods to match the DPS of a Moros... with much worse application. Not exactly a great analogy.

Also, in this case it's the difference between 2 and 3, not 6 and 7. you could argue that the Moros' turret DPS is 50% higher than the Nag's, bonuses notwithstanding. Meanwhile the Megathron (again, no bonuses) only has 16.666... % higher turret damage than a Tempest. We're talking big numbers here, not just little ones that you can throw around.

And again. Citadel launchers are downright ******* terrible. Only thing they're good for is POSbashing and hitting other sieged dreads/triaged carriers. And you don't need Citadel Launchers to do that.
terzslave
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-24 08:07:09 UTC
PHOENIX FIX PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#9 - 2013-01-24 09:02:03 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.


Welcome to someone who doens't understand capital warfare
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania
Voidlings
V0IDLINGS
#10 - 2013-01-24 16:44:09 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.

High-sec station campers that only wardec mining corps shouldn't comment on ships that can't be used in high-sec.
Just you know, because you have never used or encountered them in any way.

You know, because logic.





P.S. Fix citadel torps first, then fix naglfar. Maybe Nag post citadel torp fix might find its own niche.
Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#11 - 2013-01-24 20:51:03 UTC
I remember reading that the Nag can do more DPS than other dreads with great skills. Maybe the problem is with capital missile mechanics and not the ship itself?

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
Sanfords Son
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-01-24 21:05:36 UTC
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.

High-sec station campers that only wardec mining corps shouldn't comment on ships that can't be used in high-sec.
Just you know, because you have never used or encountered them in any way.

You know, because logic.





P.S. Fix citadel torps first, then fix naglfar. Maybe Nag post citadel torp fix might find its own niche.


I have more than one Dread toon, So I would enjoy a Citadel Missile Fix. BUT, With that said I do NOT want them fixed and the nag left alone, I want the Nag like it's suppose to be a CAPITAL PROJECTILE BEAST.

But, I do 100% agree citadel missiles need fixing, Before or after the Nag, With the nag, I don't care when but, I want the nag (in my opinion) to be x3 capital projectile turrets x1 siege module. Just like the other dreads, ship, faction weapon system, siege module.

Sanfords Son
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-01-24 21:08:40 UTC
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
I remember reading that the Nag can do more DPS than other dreads with great skills. Maybe the problem is with capital missile mechanics and not the ship itself?



The nag can do rather impressive dps and tanks a large amount is is by NO means terrible. However, In order to be even close to the Moros you need ALL lvl 5's, Capital Proj. Turret 5, Minmatar Dread 5, TWR 5. And even then an equally fit Moros will out dps you and has better tracking (I know tracking isn't the key here for dreads, just saying).


The missiles are botched when it comes to citadels', If the target can move faster than 19m/s a sieged phoenix looses MOST of it's DPS, And a nag looses about 1/3 of it.

If the target sit still, Or is infrastructure, Or a Super/Titan, The damage is fine.

Personally, I LOVE Tracking Dreads, I think it's a risky way to play and an interesting one at that, I'm just sad to see ONLY the Rev/Moros be really good at it, The Nag be at best mediocre and the phoenix a laughable offence.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-24 21:33:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Fozzie said he doesn't like the split weapon system and the Nag will be getting changed.
Just better hope he doesn't turn it into a missile dread haha

that would be quite possibly the best dev troll ever.
promise to give the nag only 1 weapon system, make it missiles :P

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Sanfords Son
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-01-24 21:53:42 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Fozzie said he doesn't like the split weapon system and the Nag will be getting changed.
Just better hope he doesn't turn it into a missile dread haha

that would be quite possibly the best dev troll ever.
promise to give the nag only 1 weapon system, make it missiles :P



STOP ******* WITH ME LIKE THIS
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-01-24 22:05:21 UTC
Judging by the missiles on the new Winmatar dessie and cyclone, it'll be a missileboat.Big smile
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#17 - 2013-01-24 22:05:46 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Fozzie said he doesn't like the split weapon system and the Nag will be getting changed.

Just better hope he doesn't turn it into a missile dread haha

With a 7.5% per level bonus to capital shield boosting P

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#18 - 2013-01-24 22:05:48 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Fozzie said he doesn't like the split weapon system and the Nag will be getting changed.
Just better hope he doesn't turn it into a missile dread haha

that would be quite possibly the best dev troll ever.
promise to give the nag only 1 weapon system, make it missiles :P


To be honest the way the Cyclone and the Typhoon turned out it might very well happen
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-01-24 22:26:45 UTC
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.

High-sec station campers that only wardec mining corps shouldn't comment on ships that can't be used in high-sec.
Just you know, because you have never used or encountered them in any way.


Ahh, such a cute noobie troll post Lol

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania
Voidlings
V0IDLINGS
#20 - 2013-01-25 05:26:18 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Richard Stallmanu Stallmania wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Oh noes, the Naglfar have one less turret slot over a Moros. But a Tempest also have one less turret slot over a Megathron to. FIX TEMPEST PLEASE Roll.

High-sec station campers that only wardec mining corps shouldn't comment on ships that can't be used in high-sec.
Just you know, because you have never used or encountered them in any way.


Ahh, such a cute noobie troll post Lol

I too found your post's cute.
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