EVE Fiction

The question is pretty simple. When pilots die outside of their pods do they die or wake up in their next clone? I've read contradicting pieces with regards to this, sometimes in the same piece of fiction. So what's the 'official' word?

Yeah, errors happen... there was that whole thing with the clone in Empyrean Age that didn't remember anything. Of course he wasn't exactly woken up by professional medical personnel either... he was woken up to be killed (which is kind of odd but eh).

Soft cloning is like having a 'restore' point if you will... I'd think if you were going to do that, then you'd need to regularly update it and probably write a personal log of some sort to tell yourself how you screwed up and died.

There is a passage in the Empyrean Age in which a character (presumably 'The Broker', although it could be a middlemen of some sorts, since it's never explicitly stated that it's him, although he does present himself as The Broker) jumps into a Giant Cauldron with molten metal, to be awoken moments later. After which he calls a surprised onlooker.

But I don't know if the Empyrean Age is considered Canon.

Isn't podless cloning the basis of how DUST514 mercs operate?

There been a few back stories of pod pilots getting killed out of their pod, one such story followed a man who had an error in his clone and lost his ability to control ships. The remedy would wipe out all of his experience since he last woke up. It was over all a good short story.

As for soft 'copying' I can see it being possible more doable with the past fiction borrowing on the story mentioned above, killing them outside of the pod only makes them forget who shot them or how they got to that point in getting shot.

There was a live event back in the days too where concord was able to punish a capsuleer and condemn him to death. The blew his ship up and killed the clone that was supposed to reactivate for him while terminating his clone contracts. basically bio-massed the poor fellow like you folks do to your alts quite often.

Either way its for fiction and lore masters at ccp to straighten the story. Until then I will argue my views when its brought up in-conversation.

Afterall these stories are more common than a capsuleer dying outside of his pod being the last straw.

That would be far too easy of an escape from capture and torture as an immortal. and it wouldn't be eve with some fubar.

Empyrean Age and several EON Chronicles all feature capsuleers being killed out of their pod and reborn while confined to certain areas (generally stations with clones in that same station).

I think we need an official lore response on this. Something that confirms/denies the possibility as explained through a chronicle or scientific article or something.

Seriously, what's the point of having a fiction portal if you can't trust or use the information therein.
You can't just have information like that on there for nearly a year, and not expect players to import that into their own backstory/RP. Players were using softclones before that because nothing in the old articles clearly states that it was not possible or allowed, it only mentions that there was/is opposition to cloning in general.

Ché has done quite a lot of things knowing he (and some others) had a soft clone. Now he doesn't even know if they have one.
If this is gone, then at least don't retcon this like you have, but make something up like that softcloning was banned in YC 114/115.
Players hate retconning their stories, you know?

I'm gonna stop writing now before I enter into a 'CCP doesn't care about RP' rant, but I was kinda hoping these things would not happen anymore.

Edit: I prefer to have this sorted out ASAP (and I don't think I'm alone in this), as Ché plans to meet a certain dangerous person, but considering the importance this will have on a lot of RP'ers, you need to make sure (includes communicating with players) you are making the right decision.

Without something like soft cloning, why was the infrastructure and research to make capsular a reality even possible? Who would ever need a clone except as an organ bank then? Why are the technologies to give use persistent scaring able to exists? Most importantly what do very rich non-capsolears DO with those clone contracts they have. It can't be jump clones, because those are less than ten years old. Is it really worth the millions of ISK just to be able to eat bacon three meals a day and smoke like a chimney?

This pretty much. Its known that the wealthy and powerful have been able to have access to clones even without pod-technology. It's not inconceivable that capsuleers, who are some of the most wealthy and powerful, could have access to the same technology, unless there was some sort of law or regulation preventing it. Even then, I see most capsuleers skirting around that law because who is going to allow themselves to have such a glaring and obvious weakness when the technology to fix it clearly exists, all things being equal?

This is the main reason that I think it should stay.

It's been referenced in a few places as being in place and within reach of the obscenely rich and/or important. I certainly think it's something that should stay, as it's out of reach of the vast majority of the population of New Eden anyway.

It's also become a big thing in player backstory and fiction too.

Still, it'll be Abraxas and Gnauton who make that call!