EVE General Discussion

"Going nuts?"

I wasn't aware that "going nuts" is against the EULA, but RMT definitely is. Have you proven your RMT allegation?

Especially true when the choices are;

(1) Fatten our wallets

(2) Doing boring as hell structure shots because some CEO was bored.


Fattening our wallets lets us lose ships doing fun things, like shoot spaceships instead of structures. And since cooler and smarter heads prevailed, we'll just reset each other and have fun shooting spaceships.

Ok then riddle me this - you've got the Titan fleet, you got the sov map showing that you own half of null to **** off to, you've got the toon with every skill in the game maxed. Now what? Why keep playing? Why keep grinding up billions upon billions of ISK, day after day, month after month, year after year even after you've got everything that ISK can buy?

Because there is still something your ISK hasn't bought yet: Cash. This is simple human psychology and it happens in every MMO out there. Once you've "been there, done that" to everything in the game and maxed out your toon to the limit, people get bored and either sell their portfolio off to RMTers or become RMTers themselves. Again, happens in every MMO.

Think of it like this: EvE is like a casino. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But all the time you're collecting chips. One day you've got a this huge pile of chips and Real Life cannot be ignored any longer. So you turn those chips in for cash. That's what RMTers are doing. And once they see just how much cash their chips were worth... they turn around and head right back into the casino.

That's where RMTers are born, at least the ones that aren't Chinese gold farmers working in sweat-shops. And given these environmental variables the creation of RMTers is inevitable.

The conditions are simple:

#1) Waxing automated generation of in-game income. This can be macros, bots, or... hmm... moon goo.

#2) Waning interest in playing the actual game.

#3) An opportunity for RMT to happen.

Golly... sound like any area of space you know? You keep saying proof, I say you don't need it, not the way you keep saying it. Take a fish tank, fill it with water, set it in direct sunlight and don't clean it for a month. Algae will form. Give MMO players too much money and not enough to spend it on and RMT will form. It is not a question of "if" only "when."

Have you ever set foot on the moon? Then you've got just as much proof the moon exists as I do in saying that RMT in nullsec alliances exist. I don't have to touch it to see it. I don't even have to see it to see how it's gravity affects the tides. I don't have to set foot on it to know it's not made of gas or just a figment of my imagination. I don't have to go to Iskbank & open a fake account to try to figure out Who In The World Could Possibly Be Feeding So Many Billions of ISK Into This Thing Golly Gee.

It isn't hard to figure out: Make a list of all the groups of people in the game who have the kind of "billions a day" ISK income required to sustain a "RMT as Real Life Job" operation. It's a pretty short list, and all the names are in null.

I am not . HBC would whoop your assses all around.

you have no idea how alliance finances work do you

yeah no

- Ofc POSs are more interesting. A sure fight to be had. And who wins gets some nice iskies.
- U could bash their POSs too ofc. Than more GFs to be had. So what wrong there.
- It TEST play smart it really doesnt have to escalate to full sov grind. Eventually the morale would break one or another Alliance.

- U could do it for yours benefits, GFs that matter actually, u know?

lots of words that i didn't read, so i thought i'd just quote this bit and laugh at you for being a complete idiot.

yes, if you want to accuse people of things, it's generally good to have proof so you don't look like a petulant child throwing a tantrum. i find it highly amusing that ever since one terrible EN24 article about a very small group of people engaging in RMT any one posting under a null sec corp/alliance tag get repeated "you're an RMTer"-esque comments thrown at them with no substance to such a claim.

it's akin to me calling you a donkey loving transvestite, even if i have no proof of it. however, i won't call you a donkey loving transvestite because i'm not a petulant child like that. the simple fact is shouting random phrases with no proof of anything makes you look like an inarticulate moron, even more so if you could have just not posted or posted something relevant and well thought out.

(1) kiss your corp CEO's a**, PM him pictures of your sister, make an (homo)erotic soundcloud recording
(2) get handed a personal tech moon or three
(3) if your moons get attacked invoke alliance to bail you out
(4) Profit.

that's how PL seems to run - how corporations use their tech seems to be entirely up to them and handing out tech moons to individual members is common. Even trading/selling your tech moons to some other member seems acceptable. If you fall out of favor your tech moons get reappropriated.

The bolded is apropos.