Player Features and Ideas Discussion

well its kinda simple really,something occured to me while being stalked by pirates today....

why is it in the game of EVE,the loser loses everything but the winner gains everything?

just by the virtue that ur ship lasted slightly longer than ur opponent that he has to bear the cost of pvp(which is often great) while u get away without a mere scratch(except the occasional repair bill which is a drop compared to losing ur entire ship and fittings)?

when u look at games like Starcraft,Command and conquer,Earth 2025,Civilisation,Ogame and even boardgames like RIsk,u noticed that whenever u engage the enemy for profit or gain or simply to be a douchebag,theres is always a price to pay,regardless of who emerges the victor.IN WAR EVERYBODY HAS CASUALTIES.

There should be a threshhold in eve whereby ur ships starts incurring extensive structural damage once the enemy has dealt a critical amount of damage to u.

And the cost of this damage should be subtantial to make the pirates BLEED from their aholes.

CCP IF U MAKE THIS HAPPEN I SWEAR I WILL BE HAPPY TO ENGAGE IN PVP ALL DAY LONG EVEN IF I KNOW I WOULD LOSE 100% OF THE TIME JUST THE FACT THAT I MADE THE BASTARD HURT IN SOME WAY.

Ummm.....u can negate that cost simply by having a couple of armour or hull reppers.the damage has to be permanent and SUBSTANTIAL.

And gimme a break,repair costs are a joke.

This already is the case, but the problem is your mindset is focused on 1v1 battles, whereas fleet battle can have varying levels of success depending on enemy losses and your own losses. It is the same with games like risk, they all use large armies rather than focusing on a solo soldier.

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IB4 lock

not really,even if i lose everything in the process but caused significant harm to the opposite party would i call it a total loss?No ill call it isk well spent.

the only reason i suggested this is u guys complain about hi sec carebears being unwilling to engage in pvp for varying reasons.often because they are on the losing end competing against the better and stronger eve players.this would give the weaker hi sec players more "leverage" in the world of pvp.

this game mechanic might bring about significant change in solo and small gang pvp.it might even bring about a boom in PVP as u know it.

Winner is the Winner, Nuf Said.

So you lost and because of that, want the other side to lose something too?
You sir, are in the wrong game.

Also, PvP is not a synonym for combat and nothing here needs to be solved.

With about 2-3 weeks of training you can fly a mostly t2 fit t1 frigate with nearly the same skill (SP) than a veteran pvp player- the rest is up to combat practice and personal experience.
Why should CCP change the rules if you are not even willing to invest that much to get at least some combat skills?
You want to make the pirate that attacks you suffer?
How about you just shoot him down?

Solve what?