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Should we invite The American Psychiatric Association into EVE and help them conduct their research?
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Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-01-21 17:39:51 UTC
This news article has prompted this question.

We have such a broad and unique playerbase here in EVE that to ignore all of us in research like this would be counter-productive.

As a social creature, I would donate 200M isk towards some subs for The American Psychiatric Association to join us here and get to know the people they're throwing labels at (Plus, think of the publicity)

Because Far-que... That's why.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#2 - 2013-01-21 17:52:01 UTC
Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5

The entire planet is their playground. To sell drugs on. Ugh

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-01-21 18:56:18 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5

The entire planet is their playground. To sell drugs on. Ugh


So they killed thier own rep...

Those mad frackers would fit in welll here

Roll

Because Far-que... That's why.
Shalia Ripper
#4 - 2013-01-21 19:08:51 UTC
I will do something about this only if there is an online support group.

Sig blah blah blah blah
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#5 - 2013-01-21 19:11:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
If you get some of those guys signed up, I'll match that donation.
Step 1 - Buddy Invite 20-day trial.
Step 2 - Get shrinks into your corp or chat channel.
Step 3 - Show them the twisted, corrupted, soulless mind of the EVE Online community.
Step 4 - See whether:
a) in the face of gleeful mass sociopathy, they flee and return to their studies of individual sick persons;
b) they stay and publish a case study (something like 'EVE Online and the Online Gaming Culture of Tears"; or
c) they get addicted themselves and end up in the belly of the beast. Twisted

But seriously, I'd be interested in seeing what trained psychologists think of some of the people in this game. Most are pretty normal, but some....
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-21 19:11:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Bane Necran wrote:
Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5

The entire planet is their playground. To sell drugs on. Ugh


To be completely fair, you cannot blame those guys alone, it's also society's fault.

Psychiatry has become somewhat of the new religion of the post industrial age; have any problems with your life? there is a pill that will help you quickly. No need to talk about your problems, no slowing down, just go full speed and keep yourself highly productive with any chemical enhancements you can get. All hail to Neuroscience!

The problem is that people actually demand that their doctors give them drugs because they hope that this will keep them from having to solve their problems themselves. Without that demand, the pharmaceutic industry would never have gotten so ridiculously powerful.

And yes, I work in that field and this time I happen to know what I am talking about.

edit:

Just wanted to say that the linked article- although it addresses a real problem- is paranoid ranting of a tinfoil wearing conspiracy theorist who thinks that Obama uses doctors as spies to secretly introduce gun control and other weird stuff. Have a quick look for some cheap laughs at the other articles this guy wrote: https://plus.google.com/u/0/108002809946749848449/posts

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-01-21 19:37:48 UTC
*Rides through thread naked on unicycle playing a vuvuzela*

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2013-01-21 20:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
*Rides through thread naked on unicycle playing a vuvuzela*

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Takes a look at my collection of strings and threads. Eyes a thread hanging from a co-worker's sweater. It's been hanging there all day. That... thread... right... there....]
Da Dom
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-21 20:10:53 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
If you get some of those guys signed up, I'll match that donation.
Step 1 - Buddy Invite 20-day trial.
Step 2 - Get shrinks into your corp or chat channel.
Step 3 - Show them the twisted, corrupted, soulless mind of the EVE Online community.
Step 4 - See whether:
a) in the face of gleeful mass sociopathy, they flee and return to their studies of individual sick persons;
b) they stay and publish a case study (something like 'EVE Online and the Online Gaming Culture of Tears"; or
c) they get addicted themselves and end up in the belly of the beast. Twisted

But seriously, I'd be interested in seeing what trained psychologists think of some of the people in this game. Most are pretty normal, but some....


Can is set, lets see what bites Twisted

Because Far-que... That's why.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#10 - 2013-01-22 12:55:04 UTC
HARHARHAR!

The Evil Plot is working!

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#11 - 2013-01-22 15:21:19 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
*Rides through thread naked on unicycle playing a vuvuzela*

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Pass the Brain-O. I need that image deleted from my mind.

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Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#12 - 2013-01-22 18:28:40 UTC
Nice article, I would say many, many people do need help in all aspects of life and some more then others.

Think about it like this, how many people do you know with a medical problem ie;
Diabetic
wears eyeglasses
allergies
heart problems ect, ect the list is endless.
now think about the human brain, one of the most complicated things in our bodies and as we already know anything with many moving parts is more at risk for something to go wrong and add this into it;
There are some basic functions that 99.9% of humans have but what is the percentage when we start to look at higher functions

Let's explain this within the common thing here EVE.
NON consequetual PVP, I believe it's wrong to bugger others who are doing their own thing AND want to be left alone on the otherhand others here think it's ok to ruin anothers good time.
I believe I'm right but the opposition thinks it's "THEIR" right cause reason XYZ.

Right there is an example of how people have different thought process, not everyone see's the same thing even though we can both agree that it is another human (otherwise NPC's would satisfy this thingy) this need to get a rush over doing something that I believe they understand it's naughty but can't help themselves from doing.

6+billion people, how many chances for each complicated piece of hardware + wiring + raising is there chances for something to go wrong;
Answer, millions of times.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#13 - 2013-01-22 18:48:48 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:

NON consequetual PVP, I believe it's wrong to bugger others who are doing their own thing AND want to be left alone on the otherhand others here think it's ok to ruin anothers good time.
I believe I'm right but the opposition thinks it's "THEIR" right cause reason XYZ.

Objectively-speaking, the XYZ folks are right - they're in a created situation specifically designed to not only permit such, but around which many rules have been written to enable and constrain such.

You apply values you find valid and meaningful to your game experience. So do they. But yours have NOT been specifically catered-to; their's have.

It might be more interesting to do an analysis of the Developers' minds-set. Why did they choose to design a game-universe that was so skewed towards 'dark?' Enquiring minds would be amused to learn...

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-01-22 20:18:20 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:
Nice article, I would say many, many people do need help in all aspects of life and some more then others.

Think about it like this, how many people do you know with a medical problem ie;
Diabetic
wears eyeglasses
allergies
heart problems ect, ect the list is endless.
now think about the human brain, one of the most complicated things in our bodies and as we already know anything with many moving parts is more at risk for something to go wrong and add this into it;
There are some basic functions that 99.9% of humans have but what is the percentage when we start to look at higher functions

Let's explain this within the common thing here EVE.
NON consequetual PVP, I believe it's wrong to bugger others who are doing their own thing AND want to be left alone on the otherhand others here think it's ok to ruin anothers good time.
I believe I'm right but the opposition thinks it's "THEIR" right cause reason XYZ.

Right there is an example of how people have different thought process, not everyone see's the same thing even though we can both agree that it is another human (otherwise NPC's would satisfy this thingy) this need to get a rush over doing something that I believe they understand it's naughty but can't help themselves from doing.

6+billion people, how many chances for each complicated piece of hardware + wiring + raising is there chances for something to go wrong;
Answer, millions of times.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNlGfaHwF-U

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#15 - 2013-01-23 00:36:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Piugattuk
silens vesica wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:

NON consequetual PVP, I believe it's wrong to bugger others who are doing their own thing AND want to be left alone on the otherhand others here think it's ok to ruin anothers good time.
I believe I'm right but the opposition thinks it's "THEIR" right cause reason XYZ.

Objectively-speaking, the XYZ folks are right - they're in a created situation specifically designed to not only permit such, but around which many rules have been written to enable and constrain such.

You apply values you find valid and meaningful to your game experience. So do they. But yours have NOT been specifically catered-to; their's have.

It might be more interesting to do an analysis of the Developers' minds-set. Why did they choose to design a game-universe that was so skewed towards 'dark?' Enquiring minds would be amused to learn...


I can agree that they did build that mechanics in, but also there is a counterbalance called Concord to keep it from getting out of control.

That being siad, which is why I specifically wrote "I" believe with my belief system, not a condemnation of those that are that way, I just get puzzled by people who can do it 100 times and still get that "thrill" I've done hundreds of missions and the first time I killed a BS I got a thrill, now I don't get like my team made a touchdown it's just some object that is something to add isk to my account.
Basically I use eve as a time waster but the thrills of blowing up something left long ago.

Nice video ÷ }
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#16 - 2013-01-23 03:10:20 UTC
Piugattuk wrote:

...I just get puzzled by people who can do it 100 times and still get that "thrill" I've done hundreds of missions and the first time I killed a BS I got a thrill, now I don't get like my team made a touchdown it's just some object that is something to add isk to my account.

See, that's just the beauty of the diverse outlooks present in mankind - and thus in EVE. Something for everyone, even if that something is little more than space-trolling.
It's probably not worth trying to 'get' why others are as they are. If you could get it, you would. No doubt, many of them reciprocate your perplexity.
Just nod, accept, and move on.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-01-23 03:28:36 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:

...I just get puzzled by people who can do it 100 times and still get that "thrill" I've done hundreds of missions and the first time I killed a BS I got a thrill, now I don't get like my team made a touchdown it's just some object that is something to add isk to my account.

See, that's just the beauty of the diverse outlooks present in mankind - and thus in EVE. Something for everyone, even if that something is little more than space-trolling.
It's probably not worth trying to 'get' why others are as they are. If you could get it, you would. No doubt, many of them reciprocate your perplexity.
Just nod, accept, and move on.


Yes but can I fap to it? Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#18 - 2013-01-23 14:32:48 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
silens vesica wrote:
Piugattuk wrote:

...I just get puzzled by people who can do it 100 times and still get that "thrill" I've done hundreds of missions and the first time I killed a BS I got a thrill, now I don't get like my team made a touchdown it's just some object that is something to add isk to my account.

See, that's just the beauty of the diverse outlooks present in mankind - and thus in EVE. Something for everyone, even if that something is little more than space-trolling.
It's probably not worth trying to 'get' why others are as they are. If you could get it, you would. No doubt, many of them reciprocate your perplexity.
Just nod, accept, and move on.


Yes but can I fap to it? Big smile

Well, yes. I suppose you can.
Of course, that one will be found in DSM5...

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