EVE General Discussion

What good is the bounty on a high sec corp, who doesn't undock, and has nothing to lose?

There's no control over the T2 market. The corporation that's responcible for the bulk of the market can't be wardeced. Ganking isn't the solution. Is anyone denying that the bulk of T2 products on the market isn't made by people in NPC corporations?

I face the equivilent of a NPC corp guy being able to come to null, and if I shoot them CONCORD pwns me and they can shoot me all day. I'm not exagerating this.

There is NO sufficient means of poking the biggest instigators in EVE. The only thing ganking enough people to have an impact will do, is lead to changes that make EVE safer. Gank enough frieghters and CCP will do something with them. Gank enough miners and CCP will...

When I fly around high sec, I see miners from NPC corps. I don't see many miners from player run corps. And when they are in a corp, I check that corp out and it's usually an incredibly small number of people, usually whatever sitting in the belt mining, with a name having only a numerical difference.


I already got the intel part down. I know exactly who it is that impacts me. There isn't enough ISK for anyone to fight back.
I have the tools to fight back against other player run corporations, but they aren't the ones impacting me. The corporations that impact me, CCP says I can't put a bounty on them, and if I want to poke them I have to gank them.

The supply line aspect of it all doesn't really bother me. Ganking frieghters to disrupt the enemy is about the only thing that's working. NPC corp guys moving goods is fine with me. I think it's actually good for the game that the NPC corps be used to avoid the wardec for the purpose of moving things around; crazy, I know.

It doesn't matter where you play, if you're an industrialist and you're in a player run corporation, ther'se four corporations that will have massive impact on what you do, and you can't do **** about it. We can't disrupt NPC corp production enough to reach a point where player run corps have control over the goods on the market; it's never happend.



Give that power to the high sec corporation and they will grow, they will fight to hold onto it power. Those that can't, will ally with those that can. Those that simply wouldn't lke to take part in a more dynamic high sec would just have to pay whatever the player run corporations decide they should.

Wardecs represent a significant level of risk and effort. High sec corporations that stay together are not being rewarded for assuming any of that risk and effort. They have nothing to win or lose.

I believe that high sec corporations should be fighting over the power to control T2 production.
Not the ability to do it, but to tax people for doing it.

That would be an incredibly meaningful thing for people to declare war on each other over in high sec.

War is pretty meaningles when there's nothing being faught over.
And the people we should be going to war with, can't be decced because they have no reason to join a player run corporation.

Let the player run corporations tax those people.

In order to accomplish getting people out of NPC corps and into player run corps, you need a really big carrot and a complete overhaul of how corporations work.

For starters, corporations should pay thier employees instead of tax them like what happens in real life. Basically what there should be is first a corporation market just for its employees which you can easily sell your goods to your own corporation without dealing with outside people. Of course you can do this with corporation contract, but its a pain and not automated.

Secondly, (and some people don't like this) there should be better methods to manage wealth in a corporation. Letting employees have access to some wealth without giving them access to its entireity. It might cut down on corp theft but the truth of the matter is that because you can't control this, people don't want to put the effort into starting a corp.

Also, corp mates should not be able to kill each other automatically without recourse. Concord should get involved with such events. Again, I know people won't like this change, but if the idea is to get people out of NPC corps you need to give them a bigger carrot to get them out.

Isn't that all smart players do with wardecs anyway? Stay docked, contract to alts and red frog resulting in a contract and login game that sucks all the fun out?

effectively 1man player corps, deccable but undissolvable (because there is no NPC corps)

and as a miner i have no interest in any of those. hence, npc corp.

But pvp players are stalking you and fighting you and generally getting all the way up into your cheese fries. Why shouldn't you have to work to get up into our business?

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