EVE General Discussion

As per the CSM minutes, the proposed dueling mechanic would allow for neutral reps at the cost of suspect status and ganking as it is available throughout all of hisec currently. Nowhere has there been a proposed mechanic that would prevent outside player intervention.

I'll reiterate my earlier point. The proposed mechanic is scarcely any different than the can flipping duels available before crimewatch. The only noticeable change is that the mechanics are now more transparent.

Good god some of you people are ******* dense.

People used to be able to "duel" by stealing from each other's cans in highsec, thereby allowing both of them to attack the other without getting concorded. The new crimewatch system removed the ability to do this. CCP, not wanting to be jerks and telling people who like to 1v1 to **** off, are adding this dueling stuff in to allow people to DO THE SAME THING THEY WERE DOING BEFORE.

Stop freaking out ... you all look like idiots.

Just to be clear ... dueling is not a new feature, it is replacing a feature removed with crimewatch.

Honestly you're all like my sister's kids:

"Want to try a bite of this pear?"
"No I don't like pears! ... ... ... what's a pear?"

And the exact same CONCORD protection that currently exists would presumably also be active when people are fighting 1v1 in some kind of 'arena' system. I'm not sure where people got the idea they'd get special protection. Probably just pulled it out of their ass to build a strawman from.

well if you want to suicide a well tanked ship I guess. But you need outside protection otherwise there wouldn't be much of a duel from griefer ganking. To fix make a deadspace warp point that the duelist warp to and disable fleets.

Yes, repeat the mantra. Stop all thought.

This might blow your mind, but even people who consent to being attacked by someone else, can still be attacked by other people who they do not consent to. Nothing is really changing whatsoever, so everyone can stop thinking this is some kind of insult to what they see as the ideological foundation of EVE.

You are very confused...
I know it's hard for themepark extraordinaire players to adapt sandbox mmo-rpg's, but this is getting ridiculous.

It's even worse than i thought, poor fellow...

There is no non-consensual PvP in EvE. Undocking is consent.

Eve is about consequences. If you get into a brawl in a bar downtown, you probably get picked up by the police and sent to jail. Firing without permission from Concord has roughly the same consequences. You expose yourself to the possibility of someone throwing that illegal punch when you undock.

Would be interesting if the police got to blow up your car for getting into a fight, though.

Yes of course they do.



If people wanted fair fights and consenting targets then they would be going out of their way to find them now--with the current game mechanics. The game as it is now does not forbid consent and an equal playing field. It is just that the eve player base consists primarily of opportunistic people who talk a big game but actuality cry a river whenever they lose.





So yes.