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Next Redesigns Please

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Solhild
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-02-24 10:47:55 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
NFain wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:


That looks terrible.


Maybe so but it have potential it sorta pull(looks) on Hel and Nid mini cousin.

Current one looks like ugly pipe with stick on front and brick glued on back,so i am more than happy to give a rough concept pic a go / like.


I agree, artwork is poor but the direction it suggests is great. Current phoon is awful but at least not nearly as bad as the reaper or the shameful talwar.

More quality offerings like the vagabond or vargur please. I only hope I don't find a dev post defending a hopeless design because some poor artist has had to waste weeks giving it great surface detail work.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#42 - 2013-02-24 11:12:19 UTC
Eli Green wrote:
Next is Apoc for everyone who hasn't noticed the current redesign pattern. Also Domi and Phoon are fine.

Remove standings and insurance.

YuuKnow
The Scope
#43 - 2013-02-26 00:19:51 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Eli Green wrote:
Next is Apoc for everyone who hasn't noticed the current redesign pattern. Also Domi and Phoon are fine.



Actually, if CCP was interested in opinion of the playerbase, they could probably just offer polls to let the players vote/decide on which ship is next for the redesign, instead of hashing them out arbitrarily.

yk
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-02-26 00:31:07 UTC


YES

Hello, hello again.

KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-02-26 00:45:35 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
If anything needs redesigned it's those Caldari abominations.... the Moa being the worst. Shocked

Original, yes. Very science-fictiony, yes.

But it also makes my eyes bleed -- which is doubly disappointing because stats-wise, both the Moa and the Gila are decent ships otherwise.

Evil

The problem with how they are currently designing the gallente and caldari [redesigns and new ships] is that they are very similar really...Caldari have sharp angles while gallente have soft angles and there are some minor details [like the caldaris blinky lights] but the ruff design philosophy is now the same


I think comparing the Moros to the Phoenix is how caldari vs gallente design should look

Now compare the redesigned Manticore to the redesigned Nemesis.

The vehicles in dust seem to have adopted this aswell, the Caldari vehicles just look like the gallente ones with sharp angles instead of smooth ones, another colour and some very small details.

The caldari ground vehicles look too bulky, they took too much inspiration from current vehicles, current vehicles dont have shields however. Caldari tanks shouldnt look all armoured, they should have large visible shield generators.

But Im straying off topic, this is the EVE forums afterall.

My point is they have changed both the caldari ship design and the gallente shipdesign from their original to new designs that look too much alike, yet they look sleek and beautifull but it does detract from their uniqueness.

I also like how the domi looks, its very gallente, but I always ALWAYS wanted to have a flyable infested domi, it could require having certain drone skills as opposed to factional battleship skills [as one would expect most of the ship to be run by small *tamed* rogue drones as opposed to crew members]

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#46 - 2013-02-26 01:06:09 UTC
While we are on the subject, a big +1 on the new glow effects. The Stabber looks amazing.

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Big Jim Slade
Kentucky Fried Nightmare
#47 - 2013-02-26 01:10:45 UTC
Caldari and gallente designs should have been more similar to start off with according to their early space life and mutual advancement (for awhile at least). Yet one making a space potatos and a few planets away the other making polygonal spasms.... eh
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-02-26 01:16:02 UTC
Even better, why does not CCP put some time into design and come up with different designs for ships that look identical to each other, brutix - astarte, cyclone sliep claymore such examples.
It is kind of embarrassing that ccp cant come up with different designs for each ship but just rip off the design from one ship to another and just change specs and so forth.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-02-26 01:48:12 UTC
Big Jim Slade wrote:
Caldari and gallente designs should have been more similar to start off with according to their early space life and mutual advancement (for awhile at least). Yet one making a space potatos and a few planets away the other making polygonal spasms.... eh


Yes but that would even moreso mean that theyd have similar technology besides hybrids.

It wouldnt be very interesting now would it?

then again, Amarr are now basically gallente with lasers instead of hybrids so I guess my whole point of the races having to be unique is completely moot.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#50 - 2013-02-26 02:04:39 UTC
What I see when i look at the Typhoon... they need to get away from it.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#51 - 2013-02-26 02:10:15 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Big Jim Slade wrote:
Caldari and gallente designs should have been more similar to start off with according to their early space life and mutual advancement (for awhile at least). Yet one making a space potatos and a few planets away the other making polygonal spasms.... eh


Yes but that would even moreso mean that theyd have similar technology besides hybrids.

It wouldnt be very interesting now would it?

then again, Amarr are now basically gallente with lasers instead of hybrids so I guess my whole point of the races having to be unique is completely moot.

Ahhh, not so much.

Yes, they both armor tank (differently) and the both use drones for a secondary weapons system (in different ways).

Other than that they are about as different in main weapons capabilities, tactics, ship design, and pretty much every other detail as they can get.

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#52 - 2013-02-26 06:58:20 UTC
Lara Sheppard wrote:
this game is about spaceships and the most designs in this game are boring. a pity!Cry

minmatar destroyer

what many want -> http://machinefire.deviantart.com/art/Tsunami-182569146 Shocked
what we get -> http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/1/19/Talwar.pngRoll

new caldari black ops

http://browse.deviantart.com/art/EO-Contest-Stahlvogel-182393197Shocked

hyperion possible redesign

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Hyperion-Mk-II-182305580Shocked

amarr dreadnought

http://www.deviantart.com/art/starship-179644271


Actually, that Amarr ship is pretty cool. Would make a great Battleship or Heavy Cruiser; maybe Black Ops or Cov Ops.

The Hyperion thingy looks like it was made with lego, the Tsunami is a drone, (albeit a massive one by that scale), and the Caldari ship is.. well, it is something; not sure what. Not saying I hate it; I just don't know what to think.

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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#53 - 2013-02-26 09:48:14 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Liner Xiandra wrote:
Can we have the art devblog back instead?


I can poke the Art Director regarding the dev blog on monday


yes please ^_^ also this thumbnail is obviusly amarr with all that yellow. im hoping its the long awaited overhaul of that dam ugly crucifier
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#54 - 2013-02-26 09:59:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dilligafmofo
Could you plese redesign the Domi to look more like a BS sized nemesis? at the moment it looks like a gooley sack with gangreen.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-02-26 10:07:25 UTC


How about NO!

need more vertical.
CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#56 - 2013-02-26 11:24:38 UTC
Mistress Lilu wrote:
Even better, why does not CCP put some time into design and come up with different designs for ships that look identical to each other, brutix - astarte, cyclone sliep claymore such examples.
It is kind of embarrassing that ccp cant come up with different designs for each ship but just rip off the design from one ship to another and just change specs and so forth.


We are starting to do that for every ship redesign.

3D Artist

Warde Guildencrantz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-02-26 11:34:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Mistress Lilu wrote:
Even better, why does not CCP put some time into design and come up with different designs for ships that look identical to each other, brutix - astarte, cyclone sliep claymore such examples.
It is kind of embarrassing that ccp cant come up with different designs for each ship but just rip off the design from one ship to another and just change specs and so forth.


We are starting to do that for every ship redesign.




Its understandable to have similar looking hulls, however reskins just seem lazy to new players who want to fly cool stuff, not stuff that just works well. Thanks for letting us know people are on top of that.

By similar hulls, I mean the merlin->hookbill. They are structurally similar in a cool way. Tempest -> vargur is a pretty good example too.

It would be nice if navy ships had a bit of variation as well, albeit less than the T2 stuff.

btw:

new moa
http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Caldari-Peregrine-Battleship-181699336

new cerberus
http://browse.deviantart.com/art/EO-Contest-Stahlvogel-182393197

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CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#58 - 2013-02-26 11:56:07 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Mistress Lilu wrote:
Even better, why does not CCP put some time into design and come up with different designs for ships that look identical to each other, brutix - astarte, cyclone sliep claymore such examples.
It is kind of embarrassing that ccp cant come up with different designs for each ship but just rip off the design from one ship to another and just change specs and so forth.


We are starting to do that for every ship redesign.




Its understandable to have similar looking hulls, however reskins just seem lazy to new players who want to fly cool stuff, not stuff that just works well. Thanks for letting us know people are on top of that.

By similar hulls, I mean the merlin->hookbill. They are structurally similar in a cool way. Tempest -> vargur is a pretty good example too.

It would be nice if navy ships had a bit of variation as well, albeit less than the T2 stuff.



making model changes for every ship version takes alot of time and ressources

3D Artist

Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-02-26 12:04:14 UTC
Tuttomenui II wrote:
My fingers are crossed for the chance to fly a Hacked Infested Dominix. The thing is so cool it is a logical choice for a faction model for the Dominix. =)


Yeah, ah Drominix, the only ship that can refuse the pilots orders. I'm really looking forward to that. -.-

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#60 - 2013-02-26 12:07:55 UTC
Caldari B.O. Ship seema to be more along the lines of Naga and last new destroyer, makes sense.

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