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Tiericide Battlecruiser mineral cost adjustments
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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-02-10 18:34:02 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
mynnna wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
BUY MY MINERALS ALREADY.

^lol


Nah, just a public service announcement. I'm saving my minerals for BS tiericide anyway.


Eve Online, known for its benovelence and altruistic player base. Who if not a goon to point that out!


So you are saying we should all hop on the tiercide BC-mfg train but you keep your mins for the BS adjustment because you dont want a piece of the cake just for the lolz. OK!

shar'ra phone home
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#62 - 2013-02-10 18:50:20 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
BUY MY MINERALS ALREADY.

^lol


Nah, just a public service announcement. I'm saving my minerals for BS tiericide anyway.


Eve Online, known for its benovelence and altruistic player base. Who if not a goon to point that out!


So you are saying we should all hop on the tiercide BC-mfg train but you keep your mins for the BS adjustment because you dont want a piece of the cake just for the lolz. OK!


Because minerals will stop being a thing, right?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2013-02-10 19:47:14 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
BUY MY MINERALS ALREADY.

^lol


Nah, just a public service announcement. I'm saving my minerals for BS tiericide anyway.


Eve Online, known for its benovelence and altruistic player base. Who if not a goon to point that out!


So you are saying we should all hop on the tiercide BC-mfg train but you keep your mins for the BS adjustment because you dont want a piece of the cake just for the lolz. OK!

its really really hilarious to tell moronic pubbies the exact truth because then they believe down is up and white is black because goons said up is up and white is white

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#64 - 2013-02-10 21:35:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
As an absolute percentage of invested isk, you'd probably have done better on frigates and cruisers. BCs will probably be somewhat better than Battleships in absolute percentages.

However, the return speed on battleships should be faster for an equal investment of ISK, as the numbers are smaller. Easier to sell 1 BS, rather than 3 BC.

But a BC investment isn't a bad idea. It'll take a while to pay off though. But it's an /easy/ payoff.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#65 - 2013-02-10 21:54:47 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
As an absolute percentage of invested isk, you'd probably have done better on frigates and cruisers. BCs will probably be somewhat better than Battleships in absolute percentages.

However, the return speed on battleships should be faster for an equal investment of ISK, as the numbers are smaller. Easier to sell 1 BS, rather than 3 BC.

But a BC investment isn't a bad idea. It'll take a while to pay off though. But it's an /easy/ payoff.



Armageddons are nearly 1/3 that of an Abaddon currently.

There certainly is room for the battleships to be a bigger absolute percentage.

You can always refine your battle-cruisers the day before the battleship patch and convert them with minimal loss.


I'm not certain all battleships starting at ~250mil would be CCP's goal. It'll be an interesting year for ship builders regardless of their end plan.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#66 - 2013-02-10 22:21:49 UTC
My grandmja is also going to make battlecruisers
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#67 - 2013-02-10 22:29:19 UTC
Illest Insurrectionist wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
As an absolute percentage of invested isk, you'd probably have done better on frigates and cruisers. BCs will probably be somewhat better than Battleships in absolute percentages.

However, the return speed on battleships should be faster for an equal investment of ISK, as the numbers are smaller. Easier to sell 1 BS, rather than 3 BC.

But a BC investment isn't a bad idea. It'll take a while to pay off though. But it's an /easy/ payoff.



Armageddons are nearly 1/3 that of an Abaddon currently.

There certainly is room for the battleships to be a bigger absolute percentage.

You can always refine your battle-cruisers the day before the battleship patch and convert them with minimal loss.


I'm not certain all battleships starting at ~250mil would be CCP's goal. It'll be an interesting year for ship builders regardless of their end plan.



umm. Nothing to see in my last post. Move along move along. Blink

I'd completely forgotten about the Armageddon when I glanced at pricing.

Wouldn't surprise me too much to see a drop in material requirements for the current Tier 3. They've dropped the requirements for the Tier 2 battle cruisers a little (iirc).

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#68 - 2013-02-10 23:09:37 UTC
They actually raised the second tier battle-cruiser mineral requirements for the drake and the hurricane.

The drake takes ~2.3mil isk more and the hurricane ~3.1mil isk more.

The harbinger got all its stuff tinkered with but over all it'll be less than 50k less.

The myrmidon did get every mineral requirement lowered for a total of ~1 mil isk less cost.


My assessment would be that minmatard's previously cheaper ships are going to be on par with the other races with the current mineral prices.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#69 - 2013-02-10 23:20:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jerry T Pepridge
at the volumes on the market atm, will be along time before minerals have say in any price rise. that doesnt include ppl that havent revealed there stacks(making it worse)

Last time (cruiser) they stopped the instant shift by changing the melted quantities as well yes? above statement assuming the latter is correct.

@JerryTPepridge
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-02-11 00:01:08 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
mynnna wrote:
BUY MY MINERALS ALREADY.

^lol


Nah, just a public service announcement. I'm saving my minerals for BS tiericide anyway.


Eve Online, known for its benovelence and altruistic player base. Who if not a goon to point that out!


So you are saying we should all hop on the tiercide BC-mfg train but you keep your mins for the BS adjustment because you dont want a piece of the cake just for the lolz. OK!


I'm merely letting anyone interested know. Whether they want to hop on BC tiericide is up to them, although if certain markets are any indication, people are certainly doing it!

Also I've got 500 of each Tier 1 BC of my own in build. ~just fyi~

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#71 - 2013-02-11 00:04:59 UTC
build battlecruisers they said
the prices will go up they said

@JerryTPepridge
Dex Thunakar
Evil Genius Organisation
#72 - 2013-02-11 08:45:27 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
build battlecruisers they said
the prices will go up they said


Uhm yeah, AFTER the patch that changes the mat costs of course, not before the patch....
Illest Insurrectionist
Sparta.
#73 - 2013-02-11 17:42:10 UTC
Dex Thunakar wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
build battlecruisers they said
the prices will go up they said


Uhm yeah, AFTER the patch that changes the mat costs of course, not before the patch....


They are up significantly already.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-02-11 17:52:58 UTC
I sold a ton to pre-patch speculators. Including one of MD's own "elite" for a hefty 30% profit. So BC's were already highly profitable for some of us.

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Havoc Zealot
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2013-02-11 19:46:23 UTC
I hear that when they change the BSs that the geddon isn't going to get touched. Can anyone confirm this?
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-02-11 19:53:21 UTC
Anything you've heard about BS tiericide is pretty much pure rumor, because CCP has said pretty much nothing about it.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#77 - 2013-02-11 20:00:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Grison
I am going to make battlecruisers out of nothing but tritanium.

Sure they might be a little.. flimsy. But the ammount of money I will save will be extraordinary


how hard could it be anyways.

1) acquire large block of tritanium.

2) roughly cut down to size and legnth

3) try my best to make it look like the ship it is supposed to be

4) cut out a hole for your pod to go into.

5) make other compartments for the warp drive, computer and engines

6) install warp drive, computer and engines

7) paint it

8) sell for massive profit

yes
flakeys
Doomheim
#78 - 2013-02-11 20:19:58 UTC
Aryth wrote:
I sold a ton to pre-patch speculators. Including one of MD's own "elite" for a hefty 30% profit. So BC's were already highly profitable for some of us.



This isn't 2009 anymore mate , no such thing as elite in this subforum.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2013-02-11 20:28:36 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Aryth wrote:
I sold a ton to pre-patch speculators. Including one of MD's own "elite" for a hefty 30% profit. So BC's were already highly profitable for some of us.



This isn't 2009 anymore mate , no such thing as elite in this subforum.


..There are still the elite. It's just not publicized any more. I think they felt stupid for clapping themselves the elite.

♠ Sinclair Consulting ♠
flakeys
Doomheim
#80 - 2013-02-11 20:34:07 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Aryth wrote:
I sold a ton to pre-patch speculators. Including one of MD's own "elite" for a hefty 30% profit. So BC's were already highly profitable for some of us.



This isn't 2009 anymore mate , no such thing as elite in this subforum.


..There are still the elite. It's just not publicized any more. I think they felt stupid for clapping themselves the elite.


THEY left a while ago .... all left now is us hillbilly inbreed .Gotta love it Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.