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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-01-19 17:18:33 UTC
Nicor Syke'Nexen wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I thought plexing your accounts was a cost effective way for players to play the game by providing content over paying a subscription fee.

Wouldn't that be CCP paying you to play, not the other way around?

No.



No what? Tell me how plexing accounts is you spending money subbing.


they'll tell you: time is money.

well, if they're so worried about what they do with their time, maybe gaming isn't the best activity for them.



Time is not money. If it was noone would work. This is in regards to someone saying "if I can't plex my account I'm taking my money elsewhere".

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-01-19 17:19:35 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I thought plexing your accounts was a cost effective way for players to play the game by providing content over paying a subscription fee.

Wouldn't that be CCP paying you to play, not the other way around?

No.



No what? Tell me how plexing accounts is you spending money subbing.



Someone gave CCP money for that PLEX to even be there. Jeez.........


edit: The money from purchased PLEXes is in a sort of 'escrow', much like Gift Certificates from a store. The money cannot be touched until the certificate (PLEX) is actually used, or reaches a pre-agreed expiration date.

It is to CCP's advantage to have these things used, and off the Market so they get their 20.



I understand how plexing works, that's not what I'm asking.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-01-19 17:20:02 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
I would rather have you explain how you plexing your account is you paying ccp to pay with money. Don't worry about other people. We all know some people spend more per month than others.

I never said that it was.
CCP gets paid when I plex my account.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#24 - 2013-01-19 17:20:12 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
This is in regards to someone saying "if I can't plex my account I'm taking my money elsewhere".


sure i am, i'm not going to keep my accounts active if they generate 0 isk.
why would you? the entire purpose for most people to have multiple accounts is to generate isk, if those accounts aren't generating isk then there's no point having them.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-01-19 17:22:07 UTC
PvP doesn't remove ISK, it just moves ISK to someone else.

I lied :o
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-01-19 17:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I would rather have you explain how you plexing your account is you paying ccp to pay with money. Don't worry about other people. We all know some people spend more per month than others.

I never said that it was.
CCP gets paid when I plex my account.


That's because you stuck your nose into someone else's conversation. The point isn't ccp getting paid "somehow" the point I was making was Dave wasn't the one paying CCP his money if he plexed his accounts (unless he spent money on plex and used the plex item as a method of adding gametime, then that's different).

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-01-19 17:23:51 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
This is in regards to someone saying "if I can't plex my account I'm taking my money elsewhere".


sure i am, i'm not going to keep my accounts active if they generate 0 isk.
why would you? the entire purpose for most people to have multiple accounts is to generate isk, if those accounts aren't generating isk then there's no point having them.



I wasn't aware you spent your money to play when you said you plexed.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#28 - 2013-01-19 17:24:16 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I would rather have you explain how you plexing your account is you paying ccp to pay with money. Don't worry about other people. We all know some people spend more per month than others.

I never said that it was.
CCP gets paid when I plex my account.


That's because you stuck your nose into someone else's conversation.



Alright, now you reveal for the troll you indeed are.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Nicor Syke'Nexen
#29 - 2013-01-19 17:24:55 UTC
Drew Solaert wrote:
PvP doesn't remove ISK, it just moves ISK to someone else.


This guy is right.

In the most recent patch, all destroyed ships drop 100% loot, up from the approximate 50% it was before.

Even the ship itself can be rebuilt (for free), if you have the skill.
Dave Stark
#30 - 2013-01-19 17:25:01 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
This is in regards to someone saying "if I can't plex my account I'm taking my money elsewhere".


sure i am, i'm not going to keep my accounts active if they generate 0 isk.
why would you? the entire purpose for most people to have multiple accounts is to generate isk, if those accounts aren't generating isk then there's no point having them.



I wasn't aware you spent your money to play when you said you plexed.


i wasn't aware plex were free.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2013-01-19 17:25:41 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I thought plexing your accounts was a cost effective way for players to play the game by providing content over paying a subscription fee.

Wouldn't that be CCP paying you to play, not the other way around?

No.



No what? Tell me how plexing accounts is you spending money subbing.



Someone gave CCP money for that PLEX to even be there. Jeez.........


edit: The money from purchased PLEXes is in a sort of 'escrow', much like Gift Certificates from a store. The money cannot be touched until the certificate (PLEX) is actually used, or reaches a pre-agreed expiration date.

It is to CCP's advantage to have these things used, and off the Market so they get their 20.



I understand how plexing works, that's not what I'm asking.



Yes it indeed was, unless I suddenly lost the capacity for language.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-01-19 17:27:58 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I would rather have you explain how you plexing your account is you paying ccp to pay with money. Don't worry about other people. We all know some people spend more per month than others.

I never said that it was.
CCP gets paid when I plex my account.


That's because you stuck your nose into someone else's conversation.



Alright, now you reveal for the troll you indeed are.



I'm not a troll. It was an honest and serious question. James piped in and spoke like I was talking to him originally. I wasn't. He was trolling me.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-01-19 17:29:11 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
This is in regards to someone saying "if I can't plex my account I'm taking my money elsewhere".


sure i am, i'm not going to keep my accounts active if they generate 0 isk.
why would you? the entire purpose for most people to have multiple accounts is to generate isk, if those accounts aren't generating isk then there's no point having them.



I wasn't aware you spent your money to play when you said you plexed.


i wasn't aware plex were free.



My apologies, you did buy plex through the website then. Nevermind, thought you meant you used ingame isk to purchase your plex. My mistake. Carry on.

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Fanatic Row
Neo T.E.C.H.
#34 - 2013-01-19 17:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Fanatic Row
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
PvPers make ISK and then spend it on new ships which they destroy in combat. They interact with one another and create content.

Care bears accumulate massive fortunes with their AFK mining and industrial play. They have few options to destroy ISK with their playstyle.
Confirming that industrialists create ISK, not re-distribute it - and PvPer blowing up ships destroy it, not inject it via insurance.

This man knows his ****.

Don't you guys see? This is why we need PvPers to balance the economy! Lol
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2013-01-19 17:30:48 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
I would rather have you explain how you plexing your account is you paying ccp to pay with money. Don't worry about other people. We all know some people spend more per month than others.

I never said that it was.
CCP gets paid when I plex my account.


That's because you stuck your nose into someone else's conversation.



Alright, now you reveal for the troll you indeed are.



I'm not a troll. It was an honest and serious question. James piped in and spoke like I was talking to him originally. I wasn't. He was trolling me.

It's a public board you idiot.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#36 - 2013-01-19 17:31:05 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Nevermind, thought you meant you used ingame isk to purchase your plex. My mistake. Carry on.


i did.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-01-19 17:31:41 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Someone gave CCP money for that PLEX to even be there. Jeez.........


edit: The money from purchased PLEXes is in a sort of 'escrow', much like Gift Certificates from a store. The money cannot be touched until the certificate (PLEX) is actually used, or reaches a pre-agreed expiration date.

It is to CCP's advantage to have these things used, and off the Market so they get their 20.



I understand how plexing works, that's not what I'm asking.[/quote]


Yes it indeed was, unless I suddenly lost the capacity for language.[/quote]


You did, I was talking to Dave who I mistakenly thought was claiming he was taking his money elsewhere since he couldn't plex his account. I thought it was ironic that using ingame funds to purchase gametime was "his" money to begin with (CCP doesn't allow for cash sales to purchase isk from players, only CCP themselves).

He corrected in saying he buys his plex with his money so it's a moot point.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#38 - 2013-01-19 17:31:48 UTC
Fanatic Row wrote:
Corey Fumimasa wrote:
PvPers make ISK and then spend it on new ships which they destroy in combat. They interact with one another and create content.

Care bears accumulate massive fortunes with their AFK mining and industrial play. They have few options to destroy ISK with their playstyle.
Confirming that industrialists create ISK, not re-distribute it - and PvPer blowing up ships destroy it, not inject it via insurance.

This man knows his ****.



Right. That carebear made ISK I earned and bought a Nightmare with the other day was not redistributed at all. sheesh. Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-01-19 17:32:11 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Nevermind, thought you meant you used ingame isk to purchase your plex. My mistake. Carry on.


i did.



Then you don't have any money to take elsewhere, so go to wow if you want.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2013-01-19 17:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

I'm not a troll. It was an honest and serious question. James piped in and spoke like I was talking to him originally. I wasn't. He was trolling me.

It's a public board you idiot.[/quote]


You know what, I'm editing my original post.

James, please refrain from expelling your asshattery to me, I find it idiotic and lame, and as such I do realize this is a public forum, and you can't help leeching, but you are an insipid troll and contribute nothing other than acting like a 12 yr old "just because".

In short, grow the **** up.

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