EVE General Discussion

As a newbie, the thing that dragged me into the game the most was the hostility of the game. That I always have to watch my back, that I can kill or be killed at any time. I love the risk and the punishment, and the way it makes my heart beat!

He lost a one billion ISK pod to the New Order just recently. I think he may be angry because PVP happened to him.

Whitehound has started overheating his damage control in this thread.

A billion isk is a lot to lose as a result of stupidly afking in highsec because you think (or wish) it was 100% safe

Having the interface be **** and not let your group form into an alliance isn't going to PREVENT people from grouping up, or disband existing groups.

Do you think the Goons will simply disperse if CCP makes the alliance interface ****? Do you think the Russians, Aussies, Swedes, French, Germans, and other groups will stop playing with their people and intermingle with you because all of a sudden the interface is ****?

If the alliance interface gets removed, they'll just make an out-of-game API-based red/blue app. NOT hard to do.

ofc it will not prevent people from grouping up and it should not be
just saying it should be harder to group up and not easier

with the current alliance system its just
10 alliance set each other blue --> mega blop in 1 minute
and you dont even know 99% of the other corps


if there were no alliance system, and each corp ceo has to set standings
you will think twice if you want to maintain a big blue list
you would have drama, cuz half of them are inactive anyway

the groups would be smaller, definitely



its just like some other tools, and nothing else is the alliance system
do you think someone would be able to move a cap fleet around in some minutes w/o dotlan/other tools?

i approve of this

What if a dedicated troll was to PvP him?

This is verging on "I didnt want that billion isk anyway", tinged with a bit of attempted e-peen over your ok income

Losing half of your daily income because you didnt understand what the game was is a big hit no matter how much you make

Yes, that's always been the best way to develop your game.

Perhaps you didn't here, CCP wants to focus on making the interface and the way we interact with the game LESS tedius and difficult.

Basically the opposite of what you tihnk they should do.




Perhaps you didn't here, CCP wants null corps to be able to move large forces around quickly and easily, and that's why they made things like titans and cynos that do exactly that.

Any place you can get to in "minutes" using the tools that get you there, are intended to get you there in "minutes".
No one's using titan bridges to hot drop supers on a roaming gang, people hotdrop subcaps on roaminng gangs, because CCP said "here guys, use these to hotdrop other players fleets."; so we do.

What CCP doesn't want, and what doesn't happen, is for one alliance to be able to use those tools to steam roll another alliance and take their space in an afternoon.


The GSF did not "just take" NC. space, and it sure has hell did not happen in a day.

It would be a huge discredit, and frankly insulting, to NC to say that we just rolled over them and took their space. No one from NC ever came to the forums and cried that "it's bullshit that GSF is hotdropping supers into the middle of our space."

I do not recall -A- crying on the forums about the HBC hotdropping supers into the middle of their space and flipping all of there sov overnight. There's a lot of other **** that was happening that had nothing to do with titan bridges and super cap fleets. A big part of HBC strategy to break -A- didn't even have anything to do with actually shooting ships. It's one of those things that makes EVE so ******* awesome.



No one is writting stories about that little 50 man engagement.
You're telling me this is bad for EVE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ-l-QGC3g0


If you want to be a part of null you need to learn to work with others or be big enough that you don't have to. Just because you play EVE doesn't mean you should be able to come to null, claim sov, and play in your own little world that doesn't invovle having to deal with the people around you.

The CFC, GSF, -A-, etc. are not composed of a couple of large corpse, they're composed of a bunch of alliances that are composed of a crapton of SMALLER corporations.

The GSF is not 6000 Goonwaffe members. Goonwaffe is the large corp (CCP gives us the ability to build multithousand man corporations, guys) around which many, many small corporations work.

When the GSF takes a system, they do not take control of that system, it's given to a SMALLER entity that works with the GSF. There are lots and lots of small (50-100 man corporations) that hold sov in null.


People like you are whining that you can't do something that thousands of other people have been doing for years. CCP intentionally ******* up the game is not going to make it "fair" for you, and that is exactly what some of you want CCP to do.

Lately? Mostly hi sec, WHs and low sec. I still have some stuff in NPC nullsec but no time to play long enough to make it fruitful for me.

So, what would that mean to me? I want EvE to be EvE in hi sec too, that's simple. Each place its dangers and its potential. Hi sec less dangerous, OK, but not SAFE.