EVE General Discussion

A lot of you are missing the core issue here when it comes to war decs and to a degree, several other parts of the game. There is simply far too many times where docking up and not fighting (going to play another game) is the best course of action. Blue balling. What you should be asking and analyzing is what needs to be changed so the best course of action is to undock and fight.

While making someone not engage and log off will feed that troll side in all of us, it makes for ****** game play and does nothing to help spaceships pew pew and explode. I'm going to a wild stab in the dark and assume most of you would rather be on the edge of your seat sucked into an epic battle than ship spinning or worse, logging off to play another game.

That's a good point to bring up. But the major problem is just what pvp in Eve is. Bring more ships, win, rinse, repeat.

If Corp A dec's Corp B, and Corp A outnumbers Corp B with a fielded fleet that outnumbers Corp B's fleet 3:1, Corp B will dock, plain and simple. It's just the nature of how pvp works in Eve. If the other guy's blob is bigger, the first guy will dock.

And if anybody comes up with that "lololol lern2smallgang pvp nub," you need a reality check. You can enjoy small gang pvp all you want, but when a bigger gang comes, what's going to happen? You either die or dock.

The games economy is not built on that vision of EVE.

High sec was never intended to be safe, and the only reason to make it "safer" is the idea that it will bring in many more players and make CCP more money.

It didn't work for anyone else that ever made those kinds of drastic changes that altered the cor principles of the game. It didn't work for EA, it didn't work for SoE, it didn't work for DAoC.



Marlona Sky gets it very well.
The problem isn't the need for more safety, it's a need to make it WOTHWHILE to go to war. People are docking up becuse there's nothing to lose, there's no reason to fight.

They could start by eliminating the one man corp. People might not like that, but the fact is that that is chief among the reason why high sec wars do not work. High sec corps should be growing like a null sec or low sec one; they're far to many people who use the corporations as a "guild" so that they can access "housing" in the form of a PoS, and then don't care about disbanding because it effects no one.

One man corps are rediculous, that's not a CORPORATION. You should have to gather people around you first.
No one disbands a 100 man corp because of a wardeck.

The solutions seem obvious to me, but that means a slightly more difficult game, and we all know that a lot of people are simply tring to make things as easy as possible; especially in high sec. The moment a little effort is required, people will regect it.


Corporations, both NPC and player run, are being abused. You should not be able to form a one man corp to avoid tax in high sec, Or to build a PoS. The fact one guy can run a PoS is silly. if they aren't going to do the PoS revamp, then PoS's (from the get go) should have been a group endevour.

CCP will never do this, this type of change already happened on another great sandbox mmo-rpg's (Ultima Online), and it killed the game.

To all the themepark carebears players that want to kill our beloved EvE, get the facts straight , you are not playing a themepark game, If you're not willing to fight for what you have in EvE Online, you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.

HTFU.

A free economy has nothing to do with it.

It's a cycle of creation and destruction, and high sec is as much a part of the destruction part as anyplace else. It's intended to be, an the economy depends upon it being so.


And WTF man.
That was the only thing out of all I wrote that you felt warranted quoting and repsonding too?

Or do you think my suggestion was actually good?

Paint? Don't go killin yerself over it, it's just a game.....

A PVP game.....

WiS was planed to solved this, i would assassinate your character in captains quarters and take our stuff.

First off, I'm sorry if this won't be on topic but....

I like turtles

So what?

As long as something stays inside the theme park is it of no consequence for the rest of EVE. And once it leaves the theme park can it be shot. There is no problem unless you have made yourself depend upon Jita for your low- and null-sec needs. If so then there is still a bit of a carebear in you who needs to be killed.

The thing is, most of your reasons are WHY that ability needs to go.


Corp cration services?
Why does anyone need you to form a corp for them? Becaue they're trying to circumvent something.

I understand that you found some emergent way to play the game, and that's cool, but it still boils down to abusing the corporation mechanic. The reason to form a corporation should not be for the purpose of circumventing other game mechanics.

Being able to game the system isn't helping the game. You should have a vested interst in forming a corp in EVE . The only way to do that is to make you responcible for other people.

CCP lets you get like 3000 guys in a single corp.
Yet EVE is overrun by one man, and alt corps who just disband when they get decced. You should be growing your corporation, and if you don't want to deal with a war dec, you shouldn't have formed it in the first place.

The fist step in fixing it, is removing one man corpations form the game.
I'm sure that the way people are using corporations in EVE, is not what CCP intended.