EVE General Discussion

In the case that you're actually a miner you are not an ISK faucet, but the rest of the statement still stands. You are harvesting materials that impact the game economy and the only really effective tool left for people to interfere with that is non-consensual decs. It doesn't matter if you stay docked for the entire war, the reality is that you're given a choice - whether or not you want to let people interfere with your gameplay. You choose to let them - that is your problem, not a problem with the mechanics.

Well, inside station, long enough to add a skill to the training queue, is pretty safe.

And, maybe you missed the point that when we are at war, we rarely log in, and never undock. That would indicate that we have a pretty good understanding that no place in EVE, outside of a station, is safe.

No. I play with PLEX, which are bought from people that gave money to EVE to be able to get PLEX to sell to me. So, CCP is making the same revenue off me whether I directly give them the money, or someone else gives them to money that pays for my subscription.

If I were not playing, less PLEX demand, lower prices of PLEX, fewer people buying PLEX, less revenue for CCP.

If you do not PVP, then you are the same "small" minority that I am.

According to a presentation I saw a few years ago, CCP says that 80% of toons never show up as a killer on a kill mail. 80% is small minority?

So if you did not sell that plex, CCP would not get any revenue from the people spending their real money on plex? I see.

You sir, are playing the game for free, which si a feature, and by all means allowed, but also does not mean it's leverage to use against anyone.

Any rate, you have just as much right to play the game as anyone else, and are equally able to be wardecced.

Sorry.

Oh wait, npc corps make you immune.

I guess you can just be ganked then.

Tarawa's corp history you ask?

Why:
Pator Tech School [PTS] from 2009.10.13 13:49 to this day

And don't pull the, I'm an NPC corp alt poster crap. I'm not buying it.


You're an NPC corp main who's afraid to be in a player run corp cause they can be war decced.


Either that or,
Post with your main or STFU.

I'll assume you meant that if I did not buy the PLEX.

You are correct. If no one was buying PLEX so that they could play for free, then no one would be able to sell PLEX for ISK in game. Then, no one would buy PLEX with real money, to sell for ISK.





No more than any other person that results in CCP receiving money because they play the game. The real power comes from numbers. Too many carebears drop, CCP will take notie and change the mechanic that is causing them to drop.

That's an obvious alt. He's stated he does everything he can to avoid decs. Why would be so stupid as to post in a thread with that position on his main? I would have already paid to dec him, as would many others.

No thanks. False Dichotomy.

I can post on my forum alt, and not STFU.

I realize that this isn't addressed to me, but I will pass along the line of thinking that was passed to me when I was a newbie:

This question is only looking at the game. Players who safe up during wardecs are looking at the metagame: The attackers want ship combat. The defenders don't. The attackers want to impose their playstyle on the defenders. They're denying the defenders the way they want to play, so the defenders deny them the way they want to play. It's a cold-shoulder tactic, or if you prefer, a blue-ball tactic. It extends to nobody saying a word in Local or private chat, or mail, or any other medium that the deccers can access.

The offense is ship PVP, because that's what the deccer prefers. The defense is social PVP, because that's what the defender prefers. The standoff is built in to the clash of playstyles, with neither side interested in giving ground, and so 90% of the time the result, as hoped for by the defenders, is a completely uneventful wardec that goes away in a week.

That's why so few mercenaries get hired, incidentally: If you're paying ISK so that the people who are denying you want you want get what they want, which probably means that the dec goes on longer than it otherwise would, what sense does that make? Why would you do that?

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Also note that I'm not arguing that this is always exclusively true, and that willingness to PVP or fear of loss is not also a concern. In fact, socials will prefer social PVP to ship PVP precisely because they're more comfortable and familiar with it, and more confident in the outcome. They might find out that they like (or at least, don't mind) ship PVP, but it will either be by surprise or by dipping their toe in when less is at stake. That's one reason why I like the recent Crimewatch changes in low sec. You can go there and learn without taking a standing hit, and without risking more than the ship you're in.