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Embiggen Eve by removing cyno
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Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-17 02:10:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Galphii
The ability to project massive fleet power over huge distances is a major problem with Eve. I know this may be flame-bait, but I propose removing regular cyno field generators from the game, and let capitals move around just like subcaps.


  • Capital ships would use jumpgates like sub-caps, but would still use their own fuel (and internal jump drive) to make the jump to the next system gate.
  • The biggest, most powerful ships in the game should not also be the fastest.
  • The cyno mechanic allows alliances to hold vast swaths of space without really doing anything with it.
  • The prospect of moving a small alliance out into 0.0 holds with it the paranoia that a fleet of 100+ supercaps will drop on them with hardly any notice at all, thus dis-incentivising the desire to move to 0.0. This also leads to boredom for 0.0 alliances, who are too big to assault except with another big 0.0 alliance (who the tend to NAP with).
  • This will make Eve's space seem huge once more, and contract the size of 0.0 alliances into space they can hold reasonably well, making room for more people to go to 0.0, resulting in more wars and fun.
  • The jump drive skill could perhaps be changed to provide a minor (5%/level) decrease in fuel usage.
  • Covert cyno generators and the ships that use them would be unchanged, as it makes sense for a stealthy blackops fleet.
  • Remove cyno bridges altogether. This of course should be combined with improved industry options for 0.0 so nobody ever has to go to empire just to maintain their sov space.

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Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#2 - 2013-01-17 05:36:40 UTC
or just nerf the range on bridges and cynos? leave pos bridges as they are tho.

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TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-17 08:24:23 UTC
You forgot to ask them to also remove jump bridges and cyno gens.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#4 - 2013-01-17 10:21:16 UTC
Embiggen....

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psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-17 10:26:40 UTC  |  Edited by: psycho freak
Seranova Farreach wrote:
or just nerf the range on bridges and cynos? leave pos bridges as they are tho.



Yea nurf everyone who isnt in a null sov holding alliance ay?

Gtfo this game isnt all about nullsec


Why not just add more npc regions in null between sov regions? Wouldnt this make eve seem big again? also provideing more room for smaller corps/alliances to start they null jurney?

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Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-17 10:30:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Galphii
Yeah I can't help but think that the bridges shrink the game universe a bit too much as well. This whole idea might necessitate all the star systems under an alliance's control actually having worthwhile stuff in them for this to work, also. Roll

Oh, and as for nerfing ranges on jump engines, I think this would just make moving capitals a lot more tedious, which doesn't really add anything to the game. I like the idea of fleets having to all move through real-space, where they can be intercepted en-route to a target, resulting in enthralling space combat. Convoys - thats the word I'm looking for.

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Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#7 - 2013-01-17 10:31:28 UTC
I can't even fly a cap and I say no to this

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Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-17 10:33:55 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
I can't even fly a cap and I say no to this

If you ain't flown one you don't gots much to say.

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Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-17 10:34:49 UTC
TheSkeptic wrote:
You forgot to ask them to also remove jump bridges and cyno gens.

Nope, they're right in there Roll

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Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#10 - 2013-01-17 10:36:59 UTC
Galphii wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
I can't even fly a cap and I say no to this

If you ain't flown one you don't gots much to say.

Sounds like some has had a retreat cut of by an alliance using jump bridges Big smile

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2013-01-17 15:34:32 UTC
http://themittani.com/features/nerf-without-cause-jump-drives



TL:DR, nerf or remove jump ranges and you will actually make it HARDER for small groups to get into nullsec, will cut off entire regions from any form of logistics if they aren't blue to four or five other regions, and further entrench the entities big enough to run freighter convoys.