Jita Park Speakers Corner

Dear god, what a terrible publord, how the hell did this guy get on the csm...

It doesn't even require having played in nullsec to see why the supercap point is dumb; if you're trying to stop blobs of supercaps, limiting new groups from acquiring them is literally the worst thing you can do, as it only promotes the current hierarchy.

interesting combination of ideas....


harder to to cyno into foreign space and limited new mommies on the server so only the haves will have them for the most part. . So if in place you could only invade say goon space at certain spots and they'd jsut load it up with mommies and support fleets for nice turkey shoots.

makes perfect sense in some alternate universe I suppose. Not sure which one though.

As a High sec carebear mission runner miner and occasional PVPer, I do believe that he does not want me and my kind ever coming to null

Particularly the bits where he wants highsec to be 99% consensual PVP only.


It'd kind of ruin the entire point of wardecs if you made it so that you couldn't wardec that rival mining corp who was hogging the asteroid belts in your home system, or take market PVP to the undock by wardeccing your competitors and disrupting their supply routes.

Edit: On the flip side, I'd like to say that if Alekseyev Karrde is running again, he's a pretty serious candidate for my vote, mainly because of

I'm glad to see that what Trebor said didn't only look silly for me.

The issue is not about supercaps or caps. You can do everything to them, bigger alliances with bigger ressources will always be advantaged.

What you need to do is to modify the fesibility of things at their base. One big alliance is able to hold from 1 to infinite systems in the game. A better balance would require to proportionally reduce the possibilities, making small entities able to take and hold one or two systems while big alliances would still be able to hold whole constellations... But not 25% of the whole conquerable space ! Then you can start thinking about things like force projection, supercap balance, and so on.
My best bet on this would be to design caps in a way that, in any given situation, the optimal ratio of cap : subcap in a battle would always be something like 1:20. Minimum.

As with everything, finding a good balance is not about nerfing big entities or nerfing the whole thing, it's to create a system where each size of group has it's own room, and make sure that these spaces don't step over eachothers.

You should explain why, because a) not all of us are mind-readers, and b) not all of us play in nullsec or fly supercaps, but are still interested in the issues.

Regarding the quote about supercaps, doing as Trebor suggested and having to have an item that only drops from dead supercaps or some kind of PVE content in null would mean that the only alliances with supercap fleets would be the biggest ones, only even worse than it already is. Obviously, the bigger alliances would get more PVE drops because we have more space and more pilots to farm that space, and we've also got a lot more money than any smaller alliance does, which means that it's hard for a smaller alliance to buy a supercap core (or whatever he wants to call it) from someone who is selling one, because the big alliances with the money set the price.

Maybe somebody else should do the same and oppose every single suggestion that guy brings up.

Any balancing argument that relies on titans being rare is doomed. That horse has bolted. They're not rare, and unless CCP outright confiscate 95% them, they never will be. I doubt CCP would do anything so stupid.