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Concord Give your stuff away if you get banned?!?!?!

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#21 - 2013-01-16 16:37:38 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Some Rando wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Why delete a record (but keep count of the number of such records deleted) only to recreate that same record later (and adjust the aforementioned count), when you can simply leave the records in the system (that's not hurting for storage space) and skip the possibility of problems with the count?

That's a good point, but you can also count destroyed PLEX as "available" for adjusting the market (if we're concerned only with already-paid-for PLEX) , so in the end either record-keeping system would work fine.

RubyPorto wrote:
How they organize their server is not particularly interesting.

I find it quite interesting, thank you very much.


Fair enough. Though I think the fact that CCP is (or is willing to) intervening in PLEX markets is more interesting than the database architecture they use to support the intervention.

At the moment we know that CCP has a fairly compact way to keep a record of the number of PLEX and amount of ISK taken from RMTers (Packaged and Stacked PLEX and a wallet, on a CCP account [I assume they would have a/several shared account/s for this purpose]). Why would they go through the effort an risk of repeatedly spawning new items on TQ (and hoping the counting function they hooked in works) when they can use an extant, well tested, and robust method of doing the equivalent thing? The only advantage (that I can see) of the more complicated delete-undelete method is a small (miniscule, really) storage space savings, and storage space is cheap.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-01-16 17:03:00 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Fair enough. Though I think the fact that CCP is (or is willing to) intervening in PLEX markets is more interesting than the database architecture they use to support the intervention.

I don't think that's so far out. PLEX allows some people who might not play to play and allows other players to avoid grind-style play. Massive fluctuations in that market affect players in a very real sense. It's why we see PLEX sales pop up when the market starts going nutty and why manipulation is pretty short-term (AFAICT). CCP makes money and PLEX remain at or near the player- and inflation-determined value, it's a win-win.

RubyPorto wrote:
Why would they go through the effort an risk of repeatedly spawning new items on TQ (and hoping the counting function they hooked in works) when they can use an extant, well tested, and robust method of doing the equivalent thing? The only advantage (that I can see) of the more complicated delete-undelete method is a small (miniscule, really) storage space savings, and storage space is cheap.

They probably just stuff it all onto one admin account and keep a transaction record, then dole them out to dummy marketeer accounts to hide the fact that CCP is selling them from the players if they feel the need to step in. Whatever. I'm just bandying words and definitions because saying you keep something "on hand" that you can create on a whim sounds stupid.

CCP has no sense of humour.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#23 - 2013-01-16 17:23:10 UTC
Some Rando wrote:

I don't think that's so far out. PLEX allows some people who might not play to play and allows other players to avoid grind-style play. Massive fluctuations in that market affect players in a very real sense. It's why we see PLEX sales pop up when the market starts going nutty and why manipulation is pretty short-term (AFAICT). CCP makes money and PLEX remain at or near the player- and inflation-determined value, it's a win-win.

They probably just stuff it all onto one admin account and keep a transaction record, then dole them out to dummy marketeer accounts to hide the fact that CCP is selling them from the players if they feel the need to step in. Whatever. I'm just bandying words and definitions because saying you keep something "on hand" that you can create on a whim sounds stupid.


I'm not saying that CCP's intervention (direct [Selling PLEXes on market] or indirect[PLEX Sales]) is a Bad thing. Just the interesting thing.

And yet you now agree that they probably do exactly that. "If it sounds stupid and it works, it isn't stupid."

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-01-16 17:25:31 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
And yet you now agree that they probably do exactly that. "If it sounds stupid and it works, it isn't stupid."

It still sounds stupid.

CCP has no sense of humour.
SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#25 - 2013-01-16 17:35:53 UTC
Going back to topic, sorry :),

I vote for police auctions, put stuff up in concord stations for folk to bid on.

Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.

Killing me should be for free.
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