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Rebuttal: Nerf Without Cause: Jump Drives

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#241 - 2013-01-16 19:37:33 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Andski wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
So the supercaps jump in, align to safespots, and warp out while doing what... nothing? Ok.


so you have no idea how supercapital fleets actually operate

good to know



Since I did not attest to the fact and only went off your low count of words to troll, I'll leave you to it. Since I did indeed quote in my reply, I'd think you'd try to be better than that.

As you aren't being a part of the solution, it's apparent you are a part of the problem.

"Good to know".

Why are you so vindictive?
Do you just hate null players so much that you want to hurt them in any way you can, and since you apparently can't do that in-game you turn to the forums hoping CCP will cater to your whims?
I mean, why else would you write something like "null should be done away with altogether".

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#242 - 2013-01-16 19:38:15 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk is writing this crap in other threads:
Quote:
I am tinkering with the thought that null should be done away with altogether and make null more of a focus like WH space.


Pretty telling agenda you go there buddy.

You've got no problem with force projection or jump drives at all. Nah, you think null needs to be removed altogether.

Gotcha.



Yes, I posted that after reading the devblogs about what changes they want to incorporate, and the idea of WH = null has been idling around for about 4 months now.

That isn't pertinent to this thread though is it?

So your intention is what, discredit by trolling? Stop the kneejerk grasping bs.

It's extremely pertinent.

How am I to trust anything you have to say in regards to null when you openly state in another thread you advocate it's removal.

At that point I only feel that you'll say anything in an effort to convince CCP to nerf stuff that doesn't need to be nerfed.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#243 - 2013-01-16 19:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Why build them? Why worry about their usage? Why bother with this thread at all then? If having them is enough, the rest shouldn't matter to use "little guys".

Why would you need to have all those tech moons and sov space and need industry at all? Why bother attacking another area in hopes of killing a station that's building a titan or a supercap? Who cares if they have it if they are unwilling to use it? Why does the word "proliferation" exist?

Noone cares who has a red button to push. People care about those who have pushed it before. They are the threat.

I get where you're coming from. You're in a corpse cannon corp (unintentional tongue twister) that has thrived on frig warfare.

But it's not just Goons. Other people have them, and other people use them. Sov space doesn't have to be "taken" to prove that. Just go to your mittani.com and read some "supercap" articles. You'll see. Don't need an outsider to tell you that =P.

Structure grinding.
The sov mechanic that makes you grind structures makes it neccesary to build supers for the purposse of grinding structures. The more supers you have the fast you grind the structure, so you're encouraged to build more supers to grind structures faster.

There's a really ****** cycle there, that people keep asking to get fixed.

Who uses supers to fight smaller forces? Show us the instances of this happening please.



http://themittani.com/features/razor-accidentally-almost-whole-irc
http://themittani.com/features/rhythm-war-drums (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_battle.php?start_time=2012-12-31%2022:56:00&end_time=2012-12-31%2023:20:00&system=LXQ2-T)
http://themittani.com/features/era-dreadnought

These are from a simple search of your corp's newsite.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#244 - 2013-01-16 19:40:21 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Since I did not attest to the fact and only went off your low count of words to troll, I'll leave you to it. Since I did indeed quote in my reply, I'd think you'd try to be better than that.

As you aren't being a part of the solution, it's apparent you are a part of the problem.

"Good to know".


Andski wrote:
since you don't seem to understand what I'm saying it's like this

supercapital fleet A is attacking an ihub in a system and hostiles bridge dictors into the system. fleet A sees the cyno up and while the hostile dictors can't do anything, fleet A aligns and warps out without a chance of even being tackled

sure, you can say that the hostiles should fly the dictors into that system but a cloaky scout already saw those dictors jumping in next door and fleet A has plenty of warning before they can be bubbled, long before "supercapital fleet B" is even involved

so why do you want supercapitals to operate with even more impunity than they already do

Twitter: @EVEAndski

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#245 - 2013-01-16 19:40:42 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Why build them? Why worry about their usage? Why bother with this thread at all then? If having them is enough, the rest shouldn't matter to use "little guys".

Why would you need to have all those tech moons and sov space and need industry at all? Why bother attacking another area in hopes of killing a station that's building a titan or a supercap? Who cares if they have it if they are unwilling to use it? Why does the word "proliferation" exist?

Noone cares who has a red button to push. People care about those who have pushed it before. They are the threat.

I get where you're coming from. You're in a corpse cannon corp (unintentional tongue twister) that has thrived on frig warfare.

But it's not just Goons. Other people have them, and other people use them. Sov space doesn't have to be "taken" to prove that. Just go to your mittani.com and read some "supercap" articles. You'll see. Don't need an outsider to tell you that =P.

Structure grinding.
The sov mechanic that makes you grind structures makes it neccesary to build supers for the purposse of grinding structures. The more supers you have the fast you grind the structure, so you're encouraged to build more supers to grind structures faster.

There's a really ****** cycle there, that people keep asking to get fixed.

Who uses supers to fight smaller forces? Show us the instances of this happening please.



http://themittani.com/features/razor-accidentally-almost-whole-irc

Uh, what exactly is that supposed to prove?
We used supers to grind sov. Your point?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#246 - 2013-01-16 19:48:55 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Andski wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
So the supercaps jump in, align to safespots, and warp out while doing what... nothing? Ok.


so you have no idea how supercapital fleets actually operate

good to know



Since I did not attest to the fact and only went off your low count of words to troll, I'll leave you to it. Since I did indeed quote in my reply, I'd think you'd try to be better than that.

As you aren't being a part of the solution, it's apparent you are a part of the problem.

"Good to know".

Why are you so vindictive?
Do you just hate null players so much that you want to hurt them in any way you can, and since you apparently can't do that in-game you turn to the forums hoping CCP will cater to your whims?
I mean, why else would you write something like "null should be done away with altogether".


I'm not understanding if I should be replying to you or who you are speaking for? Is this like some sort of forum pvp you need to step in for people?

I don't hate null players since I am a null player. I do however hate hypocrisy as it shows from atop a high horse. In regards to null being done away "altogether" that's because of the way the current mechanics are being "used" and (I won't use exploited) have adopted a style that caters to people being asshats while they claim to help the "community".

I don't hate anyone in fact.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#247 - 2013-01-16 19:55:36 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk is writing this crap in other threads:
Quote:
I am tinkering with the thought that null should be done away with altogether and make null more of a focus like WH space.


Pretty telling agenda you go there buddy.

You've got no problem with force projection or jump drives at all. Nah, you think null needs to be removed altogether.

Gotcha.



Yes, I posted that after reading the devblogs about what changes they want to incorporate, and the idea of WH = null has been idling around for about 4 months now.

That isn't pertinent to this thread though is it?

So your intention is what, discredit by trolling? Stop the kneejerk grasping bs.

It's extremely pertinent.

How am I to trust anything you have to say in regards to null when you openly state in another thread you advocate it's removal.

At that point I only feel that you'll say anything in an effort to convince CCP to nerf stuff that doesn't need to be nerfed.



Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#248 - 2013-01-16 19:56:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Why build them? Why worry about their usage? Why bother with this thread at all then? If having them is enough, the rest shouldn't matter to use "little guys".

Why would you need to have all those tech moons and sov space and need industry at all? Why bother attacking another area in hopes of killing a station that's building a titan or a supercap? Who cares if they have it if they are unwilling to use it? Why does the word "proliferation" exist?

Noone cares who has a red button to push. People care about those who have pushed it before. They are the threat.

I get where you're coming from. You're in a corpse cannon corp (unintentional tongue twister) that has thrived on frig warfare.

But it's not just Goons. Other people have them, and other people use them. Sov space doesn't have to be "taken" to prove that. Just go to your mittani.com and read some "supercap" articles. You'll see. Don't need an outsider to tell you that =P.

Structure grinding.
The sov mechanic that makes you grind structures makes it neccesary to build supers for the purposse of grinding structures. The more supers you have the fast you grind the structure, so you're encouraged to build more supers to grind structures faster.

There's a really ****** cycle there, that people keep asking to get fixed.

Who uses supers to fight smaller forces? Show us the instances of this happening please.



http://themittani.com/features/razor-accidentally-almost-whole-irc

Uh, what exactly is that supposed to prove?
We used supers to grind sov. Your point?



The point is for you to read.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#249 - 2013-01-16 20:02:42 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Why build them? Why worry about their usage? Why bother with this thread at all then? If having them is enough, the rest shouldn't matter to use "little guys".

Why would you need to have all those tech moons and sov space and need industry at all? Why bother attacking another area in hopes of killing a station that's building a titan or a supercap? Who cares if they have it if they are unwilling to use it? Why does the word "proliferation" exist?

Noone cares who has a red button to push. People care about those who have pushed it before. They are the threat.

I get where you're coming from. You're in a corpse cannon corp (unintentional tongue twister) that has thrived on frig warfare.

But it's not just Goons. Other people have them, and other people use them. Sov space doesn't have to be "taken" to prove that. Just go to your mittani.com and read some "supercap" articles. You'll see. Don't need an outsider to tell you that =P.

Structure grinding.
The sov mechanic that makes you grind structures makes it neccesary to build supers for the purposse of grinding structures. The more supers you have the fast you grind the structure, so you're encouraged to build more supers to grind structures faster.

There's a really ****** cycle there, that people keep asking to get fixed.

Who uses supers to fight smaller forces? Show us the instances of this happening please.



http://themittani.com/features/razor-accidentally-almost-whole-irc

Uh, what exactly is that supposed to prove?
We used supers to grind sov. Your point?



The point is for you to read.

Uh, what exactly is that supposed to prove?
We used supers to grind sov. Your point?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#250 - 2013-01-16 20:06:10 UTC
You know what's really funny about that post I made about WH space in that other thread? I also advocated that change to springboard into non highsec industry which you conveniently didn't touch upon. Because the way null is treated right now, it couldn't suppost industry on highsec level. It would not allow for the development of player created utopia as it wouldn't be feasible because of how dependent the different sectors are right now.


If you made null more alientated from the rest of other sector space and made traveling that more difficult to create and maintain and supply your own "empire", you'd have a better stance to ask CCP to make it possible to have much better industry than you do.

But as WHoles are only one small entity in regards to how its high/low/null, the chances are, as proven, slim.

Using Nat's claim of "empire building" supports a stronger approach to industry in that regard.

With battleship politics that null has right now, it just isn't feasible.

It's like saying you should put beverly hills' "rodeo drive" in the center of death valley.

But anyways, I digress since I'm only trying to defend my stance from an attack you use to pull into a crossthread conversation.

/shrug

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#251 - 2013-01-16 20:07:01 UTC
Fanatic Row wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"I've never even been in nullsec but I have an opinion on supercaps anyway!"
"Everyone in 0.0 has hi-sec ISK alts; except me!"

Seriously, that schtick is getting old. Even if I had never been in 0.0, it's not like all those pro 0.0 players have done such an awesome job tending to their own sandbox.


Hi.

Last year my corp provided 90% of the content on the forums. Hope you are looking forwards to this year as much as we are!
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#252 - 2013-01-16 20:23:35 UTC
Murk Paradox wrote:



Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.

And I understand that some poeple want a low sec type of an area that allows you to own sov.

Hopefully the PoS revamp will happen and small holdings can put a jump drive on one, opeining up space for them to "occupy".

However, the null sec you want will never, ever happen. Everything CCP has done, from jump drives to titan briding, has been done to support the null sec we have. They have said so themselves.


The GSF is not a few multithousand man corps. It's composed of a lot of smaller holdings, allied with other groups of the same. It is a bunch of small groups working together.

Small groups have been thriving in null sec sinse '03. Jump drives and titan bridges made it easier for every one of those small groupos to thrive.

Either be the anchor around which others form, or learn to work with one of the already existing anchors.


The perception that supers, jump drives, and titan bridges prevent anyone from entering null is wrong. It is untrue.
You are not being driven out by super capital fleets being moved from one end of EVE to the other. That is the foundation of this entire arguement, and it is wrong. It is a lie.

There is no minimum number that you could point to and say that that sized corp can not make it in null, because there is already one doing it. 100 men? 50 men? 300 men?



If you want small gang fights, on a regular basis, go to low sec.
That is the entire point of low sec. A perpetual warzone for those people who want a perpetual warzone that supports small gang warfare.

Stop trying to enforce that upon null sec. You already have it.

Stop being pussies, form up, come to deklein, and shoot us. You don't even need to look for us. I won't promise you won't get blobbed by supers, because at this point I want to blob you with a super myself.

Goonwaffe is full of smartasses.
You guys are begging to have your woes self inflicted.


There's a level of restraint that gets zero credit or appreciation in EVE.
Think about that.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#253 - 2013-01-16 20:25:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Fanatic Row wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
"I've never even been in nullsec but I have an opinion on supercaps anyway!"
"Everyone in 0.0 has hi-sec ISK alts; except me!"

Seriously, that schtick is getting old. Even if I had never been in 0.0, it's not like all those pro 0.0 players have done such an awesome job tending to their own sandbox.

Hi.

Last year my corp provided 90% of the content on the forums. Hope you are looking forwards to this year as much as we are!

Forums content is the best type of content.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#254 - 2013-01-16 20:35:52 UTC
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who likes Null Sec as it is lol. Then again I've never been a "omg the world would be so much better if" type.

In the part(s) of null sec i've inhabited fir the last 4 years, the problem has been too many people, not too few. In the upgraded system I like to rat in and call home, I had to warp off like 7 times last night because of incoming neutrals and eventually one of them in a hound decided to cloak up and stay, which of course only encouraged me to move 1 whole jump over and continue ratting lol.

I see Null Sec kinda like a wild West Frontier (with high sec basically being "Back East" lol) and i don't expect CITIES in my wild west frontier :) . I expect INJUNS (the scalp you and shoot arrows at you kind, not the "my name is Todd" customer service at 2am kind) and danger.

But I guess anything can be improved, a bit better industry and more real points of conflict would be nice.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#255 - 2013-01-16 20:49:41 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Murk Paradox wrote:
Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.



No, I really don't, unless your stance on Null is "I want it to be different from how it is today, but I have absolutely no idea how I want it to be different."


But since we're straying off topic, how would nerfing Jump Range, Jump Drives, or Cynos help improve Nullsec or mold it into your ideal conception of Nullsec?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#256 - 2013-01-16 20:50:49 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.



No, I really don't, unless your stance on Null is "I want it to be different from how it is today, but I have absolutely no idea how I want it to be different."

Well gee, I wonder...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#257 - 2013-01-16 21:06:27 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:



Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.

And I understand that some poeple want a low sec type of an area that allows you to own sov.

Hopefully the PoS revamp will happen and small holdings can put a jump drive on one, opeining up space for them to "occupy".

However, the null sec you want will never, ever happen. Everything CCP has done, from jump drives to titan briding, has been done to support the null sec we have. They have said so themselves.


The GSF is not a few multithousand man corps. It's composed of a lot of smaller holdings, allied with other groups of the same. It is a bunch of small groups working together.

Small groups have been thriving in null sec sinse '03. Jump drives and titan bridges made it easier for every one of those small groupos to thrive.

Either be the anchor around which others form, or learn to work with one of the already existing anchors.


The perception that supers, jump drives, and titan bridges prevent anyone from entering null is wrong. It is untrue.
You are not being driven out by super capital fleets being moved from one end of EVE to the other. That is the foundation of this entire arguement, and it is wrong. It is a lie.

There is no minimum number that you could point to and say that that sized corp can not make it in null, because there is already one doing it. 100 men? 50 men? 300 men?



If you want small gang fights, on a regular basis, go to low sec.
That is the entire point of low sec. A perpetual warzone for those people who want a perpetual warzone that supports small gang warfare.

Stop trying to enforce that upon null sec. You already have it.

Stop being pussies, form up, come to deklein, and shoot us. You don't even need to look for us. I won't promise you won't get blobbed by supers, because at this point I want to blob you with a super myself.

Goonwaffe is full of smartasses.
You guys are begging to have your woes self inflicted.


There's a level of restraint that gets zero credit or appreciation in EVE.
Think about that.




But your basing things on assumptions. It's like you aren't reading anything at all. I do live in Null, I do not have any significant problem with it as it currently stands except for how people treat it. When you say its all about empire building, then say you post to get people to shoot you, that's assinine. That's using a theory to suit facts, and changing your stance to what, win an argument?

If you want to know something, or unclear on something, ask. Don't assume, don't presume to know. Because you don't apart from any interaction we have had, or any intel you have directly gotten from me. For instance- you mentioned your history with Eve briefly, and I responded in kind. So now you know I do travel quite often, between highsec lowsec and nullsec (npc right now, not sov). So from that you "should" be able to ascertain that when I am in lowsec, I am there for small gang roams, since you already know it to be mfor that specific "only", that assumption would be far safer to adopt. With me so far? Good. Moving on.

Nowhere did I say that titans prevent entering null. Again, with what I've said you can see and quote.. that I travel system through system (no jumping, no clone nothing) through all 3 sectors of space. Obviously I have said I did it alone. (I have also done it with small squads and large). I have also used cynos and titan jump bridges in the past.

I have also mentioned, that I was not clamoring for a removal of said features. I did however, imply a desire to modify it (through nerf) since I understand the usage, I just don't agree with the entirety of its usage. Since my compliance isn't required, that shouldn't matter anyways. But you like to make a point of ignoring me and just subjecting seeing what you want anyways. Otherwise, there is no such thing as "power projection" because whether they are used or not, everyone understands they "CAN" be used. That's why it's "projected". If we all knew their capabilities were weaker, that amount of projected power would be lessened. That is what the point of asking for a "power projection nerf" is about.

As to the personal attack of being a pussy, I find that hard to fathom coming from someone sitting in Gooncamp that has a main doctrine of "corpse cannoning" since again, as I have said, I do also make the lone trek of 58 jumps through hostile territory quite often in a week's time without using any jump mechanic/clone whatsoever. I even mentioned how the system I was in was bubbled and camped by a fleet of about 23 Goons and I erroneously lost my Geddon trying to race to dock instead of shoring up somewhere safe.

Not my first death, certainly not my last.

Now, now you are properly educated (hand raising time if you need clarification, please don't use assumptions again) and I have properly defended myself, which by the way, I shouldn't have to if I am indeed talking to a group of people who are as veteran and venerable as you make yourselves out to be (and community driven), what else would you like to know before this thread goes through it's final throes of trolldom?

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#258 - 2013-01-16 21:08:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Murk Paradox
RubyPorto wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.



No, I really don't, unless your stance on Null is "I want it to be different from how it is today, but I have absolutely no idea how I want it to be different."


But since we're straying off topic, how would nerfing Jump Range, Jump Drives, or Cynos help improve Nullsec or mold it into your ideal conception of Nullsec?



P-o-w-e-r -p-r-o-j-e-c-t-i-o-n. However, I wasn't replying to you originally, so it doesn't really matter if you get it or not. Unless you pay my bills or make the world stop spinning, it won't really matter will it?

Seriously, do you guys really blob the forums in the same way you blob in game?

Null as political and diplomatic as you want it to be is fine. But doing and saying are 2 totally different things. Put up or shut up I guess.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#259 - 2013-01-16 21:10:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Cura Ursus
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Murk Paradox wrote:
Ok, my official stance is I would like to see null different than it is now. It would take a greater mind than my own to create that synergy, but as things work now seems kludgy at best and I doubt that's how CCP wants it since they keep changing things as it is.

There. Now you know my stance on how I feel about null.



No, I really don't, unless your stance on Null is "I want it to be different from how it is today, but I have absolutely no idea how I want it to be different."

Well gee, I wonder...



No you don't. Half your posts are one hit wonders you just troll on. You don't wonder jackknife.


--Swearing redacted
ISD Cura Ursus

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#260 - 2013-01-16 21:11:27 UTC
You guys need to stop worryiong about me if I know so little and get back to the task on hand. Unless your theory is to dumb down Eve to the point of no player development, which is infantile.

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