EVE General Discussion

Why I would like to believe it is so, it's not, statistically, hisec has the highest numbers of ships killed during the past few years (that's from dotlan statistics), but.. there's a "but" though...



You're also assuming too much. Stating someting as "is actually" doesn't automagically made it a fact. It is still your opinion, based on your knowledge, based on your assumption and perhaps (or should I say) hopefully based on your research/analysis; but regardless of what it may sound like, it's still going to be an opinion, nothing more.

You see, "power projection" is also what enables massive scale engagement on virtually any ship sizes from frigs, large subcaps to titans. If you address this topic from the perspective of fights, how can you come up with a logical deduction which resulted in it potentially prevents people from doing fights in the the long run? tools of power projection are what enables large scale engagements, with larger ships with larger numbers. Huge numbers of cruisers, battlecruisers and battleship hulls are destroyed because of this, this is what differentiates null and hisec, sure, hisec in whole has more number of ships destroyed, but what are they? you don't normally see a fleet of 100 or 200 BSes brawling each other in hisec, but you see them in null on a daily basis, that's what null was designed for, a huge pond of sand to accommodate massive scale fights, Jump Bridges, Titan Bridges, Blops Bridges, Cynos, Jump Drives are tools to make it happen.

That's what CCP designed it for, that's what people been using it for and it works. There are fights everywhere, from solo, smallgang, mid-sized fleet/brawls just like hisec and lowsec and the massive scale battles, invasions, politics, stories, metagaming across Eve Universe that's possible because CCP provided us with tools to make it happen. Power Projection is what enables large scale conflicts, large conflicts across regions are what make up stories and news, it's what enables people to say "I was there" because they participated in certain events that's big enough or unique enough to be memorable. You don't say "I was there" because you just won a 5v5 fight with some gang in the next system do you? The stories and the experience promotes further conflicts, people are going to, say, hate some big entity just because there's no one else to hate or it's just fun to hate them, people are gonna band together and fight this entity, and whether who won eventually, the cycle continues. This has happened before and it will happen again. This is nullsec. This is Eve.

Of course u hear it...

Let's reset SMA.

There's a difference between saying "proliferation" and OVER profliferation.

The OP is impling that titans have been overproliferated, IE; there are to many of them.

Obviously there is more than one, but no one but CCP knws exactly how many exist. I'm not even allowed to know how many the GSF has, for very good reasons.

You guys are also using a word that has no negative or positive conotation as a negative. The "proliferation", as if theres thousands of them all over null sec.

And "Over" is that opinion I was talking about. An amount of titans and supers needed to create super + titan heavy fleets far exceeds the amount needed to function at the head of a far more diverse fleet as an "all but stand alone super ship". The amount of supers and titans that exist in game now far exceed the needs of opinion 2 in terms of fleet functioning and fleet structure.



No one opinion is superior to the other (as I had stated)
Both can work and both are valid. They are just two ideas of how Eve can be.




This is all I have been saying this entire time. But i do enjoy watching you pedal back and forth as you try to get ahead in a debate. What would these forums be without people like you to play with.

See... you can't seem to read.

I think its a lot of words about nothing really. People are mad that there are bigger more aggressive fish in the pond than they are, and its stopping them from being the biggest fish in their local little pond some times.

They want that nerfed.


Probably wont happen, not saying wont, but probably wont. Somewhere in EVE there is a guy who can field more of something than you can, and if he comes near you, he's going to kill your something with his something. It scales all the way up through every type of game play. Roamers, campers, lowsec guys, fleet guys. Theres always a somebody who can do it a little different and or better in some regard than you can.

Crying and asking for things to get nerfed wont change that. We'll still drop right in on your cap group.

Definition: back pedal. "To pedal back".

Ooh I have one!
Make it so that the other side gets a jump bridge jammer, that when active prevents these drops.
Now for real fun also have it shut down the gates.
Thus the system is perfectly safe.
Except for the 48 hour window in which it spools down and back up.
Or just limit the number of bridges into an area for a period of time.
After being exceeed no more until dt
Of course these all require that sov be about doing stuff not just sitting around the giant block of hp
Perhaps make it like fw but sov is given to whoever gets all the indexes to one level.

All of these are very easily abused.