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CCP, Why are there no rewards for low security status?
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-01-15 08:30:52 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
anything from troll to reasonable was told already.

I just want to add few things which weren't told before:
1. Noone forces you to lose SS. You have chosen this patch. Enjoy it. Don't like negative SS - you have lots of NPC to shoot. (however i've never understand why shooting NPC you can get your SS increased. You lower it by shooting people and should increase it by doing something to people).
2. Not sure if SS connected to standings somehow. After all this is area of CONCORD. Faction/pirate standings are different thing.

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#42 - 2013-01-15 09:20:52 UTC
Danee Fedorov wrote:
Make Concord open fire on pods with -10 security standing
This would purge high sec of troublemakers
If you want pvp: send wars, fight in low/null sec, play FW.
Make the High sec a safe heaven, as it should be.


2/10, maybe 3 because you actually sound like you're serious.

Anyhoo on the off chance you are let me explain something. Its been spelled out many many times but I guess I can do it once more for you.

Highsec is not completely safe
Highsec never will be completely safe
What highsec is is safer
being safer does not make you magically immune to pvp no matter how much you whine about it

Making generalisations about other EvE players is bad, mmkay.

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Kaaii
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
#43 - 2013-01-15 09:22:59 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon.

For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again.





Risk v reward......
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-01-15 10:20:45 UTC
Why should you be rewarded for something that is as easy to get to as suicide podding your alt a few times in hisec?
Hrothgar Nilsson
#45 - 2013-01-15 10:27:36 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again.

Attack a few pods, get 200% payout bonuses on pirate missions.

Makes sense.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-01-17 03:54:48 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Low security status has all kinds of handicaps and restrictions, so why are there no rewards? If EVE is about risk and reward, then -10 players need a reward to offset the vast list of restrictions placed on their toon.

For example give everyone with -10 sec status 200% payout bonuses on Pirate missions (like from Angel Cartel and Sansha agents), or maybe a discount on pirate LP stores. Something to make -10 cool again.


let the pirate factions put bounty on concord, and give people who have -10 sec status a payout everytime a concord ship dies ;P

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henqer
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2013-01-17 04:14:19 UTC
Getting a reward for being a d**k in game and doing something you are allowed to do somewhere else but you decide to do where you are not supposed to?

Sounds to me the same as criminals asking for rewards to be criminals in real life, you know, besides what already makes them commit the crimes.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-01-17 08:41:40 UTC
Negative security status is the "F*** You, I Do What I Want" tax levied on people who decide they don't want to play by CONCORD's rules. It's the price you pay for the privilege of shooting people who aren't legally valid targets.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2013-01-17 09:27:09 UTC
henqer wrote:
Getting a reward for being a d**k in game and doing something you are allowed to do somewhere else but you decide to do where you are not supposed to?

Sounds to me the same as criminals asking for rewards to be criminals in real life, you know, besides what already makes them commit the crimes.

How often do people have to spell it out for you ?

"where you are not supposed to" ... is bullshit. One is perfectly supposed to do it in highsec.
The way you're writing this makes it look like nobody should actually do it, which is complete bullshit.

Just because CONCORD blows one up, doesn't mean one shouldn't do what he wants to do !
henqer
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-01-17 18:07:50 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
henqer wrote:
Getting a reward for being a d**k in game and doing something you are allowed to do somewhere else but you decide to do where you are not supposed to?

Sounds to me the same as criminals asking for rewards to be criminals in real life, you know, besides what already makes them commit the crimes.

How often do people have to spell it out for you ?

"where you are not supposed to" ... is bullshit. One is perfectly supposed to do it in highsec.
The way you're writing this makes it look like nobody should actually do it, which is complete bullshit.

Just because CONCORD blows one up, doesn't mean one shouldn't do what he wants to do !


Believe what you want.
Concord blowing you up and negative status gain are pretty clear indications to me that you are not supposed to do that.

CCP allows you to be a criminal in game, that doesn't mean you should expect rewards for being one.
What's next, you gonna want rewards for scammers? It's allowed in game too.
Kerdrak
Querry Moon
#51 - 2013-01-17 19:35:53 UTC
¿Podding people in low sec deserves rewards?
Marius Deterium
Crush Kill Destroy
#52 - 2013-01-18 20:45:56 UTC
Kerdrak wrote:
¿Podding people in low sec deserves rewards?


Supporting this.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#53 - 2013-01-19 00:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
henqer wrote:
Concord blowing you up and negative status gain are pretty clear indications to me that you are not supposed to do that.


There exists code that handles what should happen if a player does those things, and to me that's no "clear indication" of anything. It's a hardcoded fact ganks are supposed to happen. When they happen, lines of code are executed. Lines of code people were paid a salary for to write.
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